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Why is this a bad thing? It's just like India kicking out those two tourists for political signs. I can't see any benefit at all to allowing tourist or student

Why is this a bad thing? It's just like India kicking out those two tourists for political signs. I can't see any benefit at all to allowing tourist or student visas is this case to participate in "activism". https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/india-orders-british-tourists-leave-123909922.html?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home&guccounter=1 https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/india-orders-british-tou...

snake42 8mo ago
Non-citizens have constitutional rights as well. The DHS having the ability to produce subpoenas without judicial oversight is definitely a bad thing.
- tick_tock_tick 8mo ago
  Sure, their rights will not be violated. They will not be jailed for their activism just removed/banned from the country.
  - snake42 8mo ago
    How does that not violate their right to freedom of speech and assembly?
ropetin 8mo ago
If I'm reading you right, you're saying if one country does something bad, that makes it OK for another country to do the same? You can likely find a country in the world doing any heinous thing you can think of, so is everything on the table? What about positive things? Lots of countries have socialized medicine, so by your logic doesn't that mean the US should, too? And if you think activism is bad for non-residents (non-citizens?) who do you think should decide what constitutes activism? A student goes to a pro-Israel rally, is that deportable activism? A tourist goes to an 'adopt-a-puppy' event at a no-kill shelter and donates $10, is that deportable activism?
- tick_tock_tick 8mo ago
  No, you're so far off base I don't really know how you even got there. My point is purely that it is 100% inappropriate for a guests in our country to be pushing for political change in our own country.
  - deaux 8mo ago
    Once upon a same, the exact same argument was made against women or black slaves pushing for political change.

snake42 8mo ago

Non-citizens have constitutional rights as well. The DHS having the ability to produce subpoenas without judicial oversight is definitely a bad thing.

tick_tock_tick 8mo ago
Sure, their rights will not be violated. They will not be jailed for their activism just removed/banned from the country.
- snake42 8mo ago
  How does that not violate their right to freedom of speech and assembly?

ropetin 8mo ago

If I'm reading you right, you're saying if one country does something bad, that makes it OK for another country to do the same? You can likely find a country in the world doing any heinous thing you can think of, so is everything on the table? What about positive things? Lots of countries have socialized medicine, so by your logic doesn't that mean the US should, too? And if you think activism is bad for non-residents (non-citizens?) who do you think should decide what constitutes activism? A student goes to a pro-Israel rally, is that deportable activism? A tourist goes to an 'adopt-a-puppy' event at a no-kill shelter and donates $10, is that deportable activism?

tick_tock_tick 8mo ago
No, you're so far off base I don't really know how you even got there. My point is purely that it is 100% inappropriate for a guests in our country to be pushing for political change in our own country.
- deaux 8mo ago
  Once upon a same, the exact same argument was made against women or black slaves pushing for political change.