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Apparently around 300 students have been deported over pro-Palestine activism, similar to the person in the article who self-deported https://www.themarshallpr
by dmix 9mo ago
Apparently around 300 students have been deported over pro-Palestine activism, similar to the person in the article who self-deported
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/04/05/visa-immigration-first-amendment-protest-speech https://www.themarshallproject.org/2025/04/05/visa-immigrati...
> Legally, the answer is murky, one expert told The Washington Post — at least when it comes to combing through Supreme Court decisions for answers. The court has been clear that First Amendment protections from criminal or civil penalties for speech apply to citizens and noncitizens alike. What’s less settled, however, is how those protections apply in the immigration context, where the executive branch has broad discretion to detain or deport.
- dathinab 9mo agoThe law is both in wording and spirit pretty clear that - any civilian has a right for free speech, and protests count as that - any civilian has a right for due process There is nothing murky about that. There are just people pretending it's murky (in this and many other cases) to systematically undermine the US constitution. Which is a huge problem (beyond this specific case and made much worse by the state of current supreme court).
- tick_tock_tick 9mo agoWhy is this a bad thing? It's just like India kicking out those two tourists for political signs. I can't see any benefit at all to allowing tourist or student visas is this case to participate in "activism". https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/india-orders-british-tourists-leave-123909922.html?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=offthepress&utm_campaign=home&guccounter=1 https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/india-orders-british-tou...
- snake42 9mo agoNon-citizens have constitutional rights as well. The DHS having the ability to produce subpoenas without judicial oversight is definitely a bad thing.
- tick_tock_tick 9mo agoSure, their rights will not be violated. They will not be jailed for their activism just removed/banned from the country.
- snake42 9mo agoHow does that not violate their right to freedom of speech and assembly?
- ropetin 9mo agoIf I'm reading you right, you're saying if one country does something bad, that makes it OK for another country to do the same? You can likely find a country in the world doing any heinous thing you can think of, so is everything on the table? What about positive things? Lots of countries have socialized medicine, so by your logic doesn't that mean the US should, too? And if you think activism is bad for non-residents (non-citizens?) who do you think should decide what constitutes activism? A student goes to a pro-Israel rally, is that deportable activism? A tourist goes to an 'adopt-a-puppy' event at a no-kill shelter and donates $10, is that deportable activism?
- tick_tock_tick 9mo agoNo, you're so far off base I don't really know how you even got there. My point is purely that it is 100% inappropriate for a guests in our country to be pushing for political change in our own country.
- deaux 9mo agoOnce upon a same, the exact same argument was made against women or black slaves pushing for political change.