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That's the thing - even if it is illegal, it isn't hurting anyone, and no doubt cops do it as well. He may as well go around filming people jaywalking on empty
by JCattheATM 8mo ago
That's the thing - even if it is illegal, it isn't hurting anyone, and no doubt cops do it as well. He may as well go around filming people jaywalking on empty streets for all the good it's doing.
- pavel_lishin 8mo ago> and no doubt cops do it as well How is this a defense?
- JCattheATM 8mo agoIt illustrates it's a harmless mundane offense that while technically illegal harms no one.
- creaturemachine 8mo agoFortunately for the people in London and the UK, jaywalking is not illegal.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoSo replace it with some other mundane thing that technically might be illegal but which most people do and harms no one.
- justincormack 8mo agoJaywalking is legal in the uk
- JCattheATM 8mo agoSo replace it with some other mundane thing that technically might be illegal but which most people do and harms no one.
- ndsipa_pomu 8mo agoThe problem is that distracted drivers do kill, main and injure other people. "Jaywalking" was an invention by motor car manufacturers to try to victim blame pedestrians for careless driving incidents - luckily we don't have that in Britain.
- JCattheATM 8mo agoYes, 2 other people pointed that out almost a full day ago. Instead, you can replace jaywalking with some other mundane thing that technically might be illegal but which most people do and harms no one.
- ndsipa_pomu 8mo agoYou're missing the very important distinction between illegal driving that can and does kill and injure other people, and "technically illegal" acts that do no harm. Can you understand why the rule of law is used to prevent people causing harm to others?
- JCattheATM 8mo agoI'm not missing that distinction at all. I think it's nonsense to harass people for technically illegal things that are not harming anyone. I think it would be fantastic if Mikey was passive in filming actual illegal acts that had potential for death or injury. I don't approve of him inserting himself into situations to try and intervene because I think that just increased the potential for an accident or other undesirable outcome.
- ndsipa_pomu 8mo agoYou keep implying that drivers distracting themselves with their phone whilst stopped in traffic are harmless, whereas it's very dangerous - that's precisely why the law was drafted to specifically make even just holding a phone whilst in control of a motor vehicle to be illegal. Drivers are not able to quickly switch contexts between staring at a phone and looking around their vehicle and this "whatsapp-gap" is painfully obvious when cycling past slow/stopped traffic. It does lead to collisions with other road users - typically pedestrians and cyclists as drivers tend to only bother looking for other car-shaped vehicles and even more so when they're in the 30 second re-adjustment of their attention. There is no "safe" use of a phone when driving - even using it in a cradle/hands-free which is legal in the UK, leads to a higher level of distraction and there would be a strong argument for making that illegal too, but we should focus more on enforcement of the existing traffic laws. There's people like Mikey trying to make the world a bit better, and then there's people like you who make apologies for dangerous and illegal drivers. Maybe you should re-examine your attitude.