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> If you do not accept Visa and Mastercard you are not going to accept payments from all sorts of travellers (tourists, business people Who all stop in chain h

> If you do not accept Visa and Mastercard you are not going to accept payments from all sorts of travellers (tourists, business people Who all stop in chain hotels, who will accept whatever you bring. > Xenophobic or anti-tourism? Anti-American tourism. I would say it is a mainstream opinion in Europe that American tourists are very annoying. Each country has its stereotypes about each other, usually stemming from WW2, but the feelings against American tourists have the wonderful effect of uniting Europe. Then America elected a president that threatened us first with economic sanctions, then war. Perhaps it is a fault in our characters, but we tend to take against people that threaten us with military action.

ericmay 9mo ago
> Who all stop in chain hotels, who will accept whatever you bring. No, that's pretty much all European hotels actually. Hotels require credit cards for three reasons: 1. Security - if you leave the room a mess or destroyed there's an avenue for recourse. 2. To make more money - having a card on file for "incidentals" increases purchases from hotel guests. 3. Obtain payment - most people don't have the cash laying around to pony up to pay full nightly rates, nor do they have any desire carry thousands of Euros around on their person just to go pay in a large purchase at this conjured up local cash-only inn. It also makes your hotel property an easy target for robbery. It's strange to me that you're taking such a hard stance over something that is obviously incorrect in order to... make fun of people from around the world who can only afford to stay in chain hotels on vacation? I usually stay boutique properties which are sometimes, but not always managed by boutique property groups. They take credit cards. Every. Single. Time. Can you provide the name of a single hotel in Europe that doesn't take credit cards?
- Hikikomori 9mo ago
  >Hotels require credit cards for three reasons >Can you provide the name of a single hotel in Europe that doesn't take credit cards? Holy goalpost.
  - ericmay 9mo ago
    How is this a goalpost shift? The person I was responding to seems to think it's only tourist and chain hotels that accept credit cards. Show me a hotel in Europe that doesn't. Stop trying to associate credit card usage with foreign tourism in a negative light.
    - Hikikomori 9mo ago
      >require >take
      - ericmay 9mo ago
        Ok fair enough. I used the terms interchangeably but shouldn't have - I can't edit my post. So to be more clear: find me a hotel in Europe that doesn't require a credit card to book or have on file related to the reasons I stated above.
        Hikikomori 9mo ago
        I live in Europe and have stayed at quite a few hotels, I don't have a credit card, I do have two debit cards.
        ericmay 9mo ago
        Sure, can you provide an example? And separately, does that hotel accept credit cards? By the way, American debit cards also run on Visa and Mastercard. So going back to the OP this idea of Europe "breaking up" with Visa and Mastercard is just not going to happen even if somehow whatever number of European businesses just stopped accepting credit cards.
        Hikikomori 9mo ago
        Hotels in 10+ European countries? They accept any visa/mastercard and don't care if its debit or credit, its irrelevant. They will keep accepting them in addition to this new EU system.

ericmay 9mo ago

> Who all stop in chain hotels, who will accept whatever you bring. No, that's pretty much all European hotels actually. Hotels require credit cards for three reasons: 1. Security - if you leave the room a mess or destroyed there's an avenue for recourse. 2. To make more money - having a card on file for "incidentals" increases purchases from hotel guests. 3. Obtain payment - most people don't have the cash laying around to pony up to pay full nightly rates, nor do they have any desire carry thousands of Euros around on their person just to go pay in a large purchase at this conjured up local cash-only inn. It also makes your hotel property an easy target for robbery. It's strange to me that you're taking such a hard stance over something that is obviously incorrect in order to... make fun of people from around the world who can only afford to stay in chain hotels on vacation? I usually stay boutique properties which are sometimes, but not always managed by boutique property groups. They take credit cards. Every. Single. Time. Can you provide the name of a single hotel in Europe that doesn't take credit cards?

Hikikomori 9mo ago
>Hotels require credit cards for three reasons >Can you provide the name of a single hotel in Europe that doesn't take credit cards? Holy goalpost.
- ericmay 9mo ago
  How is this a goalpost shift? The person I was responding to seems to think it's only tourist and chain hotels that accept credit cards. Show me a hotel in Europe that doesn't. Stop trying to associate credit card usage with foreign tourism in a negative light.
  - Hikikomori 9mo ago
    >require >take
    - ericmay 9mo ago
      Ok fair enough. I used the terms interchangeably but shouldn't have - I can't edit my post. So to be more clear: find me a hotel in Europe that doesn't require a credit card to book or have on file related to the reasons I stated above.
      - Hikikomori 9mo ago
        I live in Europe and have stayed at quite a few hotels, I don't have a credit card, I do have two debit cards.
        ericmay 9mo ago
        Sure, can you provide an example? And separately, does that hotel accept credit cards? By the way, American debit cards also run on Visa and Mastercard. So going back to the OP this idea of Europe "breaking up" with Visa and Mastercard is just not going to happen even if somehow whatever number of European businesses just stopped accepting credit cards.
        Hikikomori 9mo ago
        Hotels in 10+ European countries? They accept any visa/mastercard and don't care if its debit or credit, its irrelevant. They will keep accepting them in addition to this new EU system.