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It’s worth pointing out that the official Bazzite position is that Antheas was removed from the project for breaching Code of Conduct and harassing people in th

It’s worth pointing out that the official Bazzite position is that Antheas was removed from the project for breaching Code of Conduct and harassing people in their official Discord server

dismalaf 8mo ago
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- shantara 8mo ago
  It didn’t impact me as a user, and I let the maintainers deal with their drama.
- micromacrofoot 8mo ago
  was publicly being rude to the point of making other contributors leave (even after being asked to stop) and at least one case of using a slur they said it themselves in this post > Yes, I know I am hard to work with. Yes, I know that I pushed certain OSS contributors away. generally the kind of person that gives open source a bad reputation, you can be critical or anti-social without being an asshole
  - hiprob 8mo ago
    what about linus torvalds
    - rbtbisrespected 8mo ago
      [dead]
    - micromacrofoot 8mo ago
      he's the guy that created the linux kernel
    - malicka 8mo ago
      You can be Dr. House MD only when you have the rep and skills of Dr. House MD. I think Linus definitely cleared that threshold.
      - rtaylorgarlock 8mo ago
        Boy i wish that principle held up in real medicine and other parts of life; "rep and skills" may in some ways equal power, but that false equivalency is how problematic behavior is excused in unfit individuals.
      - Conan_Kudo 8mo ago
        Linus got counseling to get better at communication. Even he recognized that was bad. Don't use him as an example to accept bad people.
    - hysan 8mo ago
      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/linus-torvalds-apologizes-for-years-of-being-a-jerk-takes-time-off-to-learn-empathy/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/linus-torvalds-apolo...
- jajuuka 8mo ago
  Pretty much. He said some mean words. The cult of personality around the other maintainer has spun it into something way worse that he someone made other people quit OSS or something. It's hog wash and not backed up by anything.
  - Forgeties79 8mo ago
    >He said some mean words. I guarantee you I can say some mean words that would upset you at some point. If you have to repeatedly deal with it, you'd likely leave the space we share or ask someone to make me leave. Words have power, we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
    - jajuuka 8mo ago
      1. Being called an idiot or told my idea is dumb is not going to upset me. I guess I just have more emotional maturity than some OSS devs. 2. Why would I leave when I can just block you if you are harassing me? 3. Why are you inventing this hypothetical instead of just showing where that occurred? 4. No-one has said words don't have power. But being on the internet you should be able to recognize that you won't be friends with everyone. So you have to develop some basic emotional regulation for silly insults.
      - squigz 8mo ago
        > 1. Being called an idiot or told my idea is dumb is not going to upset me. I guess I just have more emotional maturity than some OSS devs. Alternatively, other people just have more respect for themselves (and others) than to stand to repeatedly be called an idiot.
        jajuuka 8mo ago
        Why? What's the point of getting upset over any minor slight? Seems more disrespectful to yourself to waste time thinking about it. Why not laugh at the silly insults from people who don't know you and move on?
      - 8mo ago
- 5G_activated 8mo ago
  it was clearly bad enough for everyone else to decide that they didn't want to put up with him anymore. which is what happens in the real world. online, everyone considers themselves a public figure. and because we can't seem to get shot of public figures, whether they be rapists, homophobes, or just arseholes, alleged or proven, they believe, logically, you shouldn't be able to be rid of them. offline, if you have someone who makes your life a misery, you tell them to fuck off.
ekianjo 8mo ago
or depending on your point of view (I don't know which one is the correct one), it's very easy to find some rule that was infringed for a quick power grab, right at the time when Bazzite is becoming popular.
- snapplebobapple 8mo ago
  It's sad that this happens so often now. My brain auto translates the above statement to "we, the wokes, abused the overly broad, convoluted and mostly unnecessary code of conduct we pushed through earlier to get rid of dissent." at this point, although it may not be a correct auto translation in this case.

It’s worth pointing out that the official Bazzite position is that Antheas was removed from the project for breaching Code of Conduct and harassing people in their official Discord server

dismalaf 8mo ago

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shantara 8mo ago
It didn’t impact me as a user, and I let the maintainers deal with their drama.
micromacrofoot 8mo ago
was publicly being rude to the point of making other contributors leave (even after being asked to stop) and at least one case of using a slur they said it themselves in this post > Yes, I know I am hard to work with. Yes, I know that I pushed certain OSS contributors away. generally the kind of person that gives open source a bad reputation, you can be critical or anti-social without being an asshole
- hiprob 8mo ago
  what about linus torvalds
  - rbtbisrespected 8mo ago
    [dead]
  - micromacrofoot 8mo ago
    he's the guy that created the linux kernel
  - malicka 8mo ago
    You can be Dr. House MD only when you have the rep and skills of Dr. House MD. I think Linus definitely cleared that threshold.
    - rtaylorgarlock 8mo ago
      Boy i wish that principle held up in real medicine and other parts of life; "rep and skills" may in some ways equal power, but that false equivalency is how problematic behavior is excused in unfit individuals.
    - Conan_Kudo 8mo ago
      Linus got counseling to get better at communication. Even he recognized that was bad. Don't use him as an example to accept bad people.
  - hysan 8mo ago
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/linus-torvalds-apologizes-for-years-of-being-a-jerk-takes-time-off-to-learn-empathy/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/linus-torvalds-apolo...
jajuuka 8mo ago
Pretty much. He said some mean words. The cult of personality around the other maintainer has spun it into something way worse that he someone made other people quit OSS or something. It's hog wash and not backed up by anything.
- Forgeties79 8mo ago
  >He said some mean words. I guarantee you I can say some mean words that would upset you at some point. If you have to repeatedly deal with it, you'd likely leave the space we share or ask someone to make me leave. Words have power, we shouldn't pretend otherwise.
  - jajuuka 8mo ago
    1. Being called an idiot or told my idea is dumb is not going to upset me. I guess I just have more emotional maturity than some OSS devs. 2. Why would I leave when I can just block you if you are harassing me? 3. Why are you inventing this hypothetical instead of just showing where that occurred? 4. No-one has said words don't have power. But being on the internet you should be able to recognize that you won't be friends with everyone. So you have to develop some basic emotional regulation for silly insults.
    - squigz 8mo ago
      > 1. Being called an idiot or told my idea is dumb is not going to upset me. I guess I just have more emotional maturity than some OSS devs. Alternatively, other people just have more respect for themselves (and others) than to stand to repeatedly be called an idiot.
      - jajuuka 8mo ago
        Why? What's the point of getting upset over any minor slight? Seems more disrespectful to yourself to waste time thinking about it. Why not laugh at the silly insults from people who don't know you and move on?
    - 8mo ago
5G_activated 8mo ago
it was clearly bad enough for everyone else to decide that they didn't want to put up with him anymore. which is what happens in the real world. online, everyone considers themselves a public figure. and because we can't seem to get shot of public figures, whether they be rapists, homophobes, or just arseholes, alleged or proven, they believe, logically, you shouldn't be able to be rid of them. offline, if you have someone who makes your life a misery, you tell them to fuck off.

ekianjo 8mo ago

or depending on your point of view (I don't know which one is the correct one), it's very easy to find some rule that was infringed for a quick power grab, right at the time when Bazzite is becoming popular.

snapplebobapple 8mo ago
It's sad that this happens so often now. My brain auto translates the above statement to "we, the wokes, abused the overly broad, convoluted and mostly unnecessary code of conduct we pushed through earlier to get rid of dissent." at this point, although it may not be a correct auto translation in this case.