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Exactly ... tired by all the marketing hyperbole talk. Just show what your product does in a simple example / showcase. If it's good, people will like it. You c

Exactly ... tired by all the marketing hyperbole talk. Just show what your product does in a simple example / showcase. If it's good, people will like it. You can save yourself a lot of text copy and user time that way.

munk-a 8mo ago
But what if my product is just an attempt to make a cushy exit during the AI bubble?
ezekg 8mo ago
They'll learn soon enough that selling to developers necessitates speaking clearly.
- LtWorf 8mo ago
  They will sell to their managers
  - jeltz 8mo ago
    No. With this kind of bullshit they plan to try to sell to C-levels and board members. Edit: Actually it may just be aimed at investors. Who cares about having a product?
    - properbrew 8mo ago
      > Actually it may just be aimed at investors The fact that the first image you see has "$60M seed" in big text, I have to agree, this does not feel aimed at devs.
- davepeck 8mo ago
  Dohmke never spoke clearly to developers when he was GitHub's CEO.
  - ambicapter 8mo ago
    A CEO is never speaking to developers, he's speaking to other CEOs.
    - davepeck 8mo ago
      CEOs have many audiences; great CEOs communicate capably with each. FWIW it's not entirely clear to me who Entire's long-term customer is, but the (interesting!) CLI that shipped today is very much for developers who are busy building with agents.
eddythompson80 8mo ago
The problem is that when it comes to (commercial) developer tools and services, everyone can/wants to be everything, so why let a simple statement or a showcase limit you? "Hey, we are a container scanning service... But we can also be a container registry too, a CI, a KeyValue store, an agent sandbox provider, git hosting? We can do quick dev deployments/preview too. Want a private npm registry? Automated pull request reviews? Code Signing service? We are working on a new text editor btw"
CodingJeebus 8mo ago
I feel like these types of pages are less geared towards actual users of the product and more towards the investors who love the vague and flowery language. We're no longer in a world where the path to profitability was the objective goal anyway, it makes sense to me that the marketing of software is becoming decreasingly detached from reality.. It's almost like an extension of the "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product" idea. If you're assessing a tool like this and the marketing isn't even trying to communicate to you, the user, what the product does, aren't you also kind of "the product" in this case too?

munk-a 8mo ago

But what if my product is just an attempt to make a cushy exit during the AI bubble?

ezekg 8mo ago

They'll learn soon enough that selling to developers necessitates speaking clearly.

LtWorf 8mo ago
They will sell to their managers
- jeltz 8mo ago
  No. With this kind of bullshit they plan to try to sell to C-levels and board members. Edit: Actually it may just be aimed at investors. Who cares about having a product?
  - properbrew 8mo ago
    > Actually it may just be aimed at investors The fact that the first image you see has "$60M seed" in big text, I have to agree, this does not feel aimed at devs.
davepeck 8mo ago
Dohmke never spoke clearly to developers when he was GitHub's CEO.
- ambicapter 8mo ago
  A CEO is never speaking to developers, he's speaking to other CEOs.
  - davepeck 8mo ago
    CEOs have many audiences; great CEOs communicate capably with each. FWIW it's not entirely clear to me who Entire's long-term customer is, but the (interesting!) CLI that shipped today is very much for developers who are busy building with agents.

eddythompson80 8mo ago

The problem is that when it comes to (commercial) developer tools and services, everyone can/wants to be everything, so why let a simple statement or a showcase limit you? "Hey, we are a container scanning service... But we can also be a container registry too, a CI, a KeyValue store, an agent sandbox provider, git hosting? We can do quick dev deployments/preview too. Want a private npm registry? Automated pull request reviews? Code Signing service? We are working on a new text editor btw"

CodingJeebus 8mo ago

I feel like these types of pages are less geared towards actual users of the product and more towards the investors who love the vague and flowery language. We're no longer in a world where the path to profitability was the objective goal anyway, it makes sense to me that the marketing of software is becoming decreasingly detached from reality.. It's almost like an extension of the "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product" idea. If you're assessing a tool like this and the marketing isn't even trying to communicate to you, the user, what the product does, aren't you also kind of "the product" in this case too?