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Their website is so nice and smooth even on my shitty computer, not like the other announcement pages of major companies that only work on state of the art macb

by bflesch 8mo ago

Their website is so nice and smooth even on my shitty computer, not like the other announcement pages of major companies that only work on state of the art macbooks.

greatgib 8mo ago
The website looks good but it is very hard to know what they do exactly and what they sell, if you can be their customer or not just browsing the website. If you don't know them before. Like do they sell a service or a product. Do they sell hardware, software or something else? it is very confusing.
- db48x 8mo ago
  I think https://oxide.computer/product/specifications https://oxide.computer/product/specifications makes it pretty clear: Compute Sleds (Total) 16, 24, or 32 CPU Cores 1024–2048 Memory (DRAM) 8–32 TiB Storage 465.75–931.5 TiB Network Switches 2 Switching Capacity 12.8 Tbit/s Power Shelves Up to 2 Power Supplies per Shelf 6 (5+1 or 3+3) Typical / Max Power Draw 12 / 15 kW Dimensions H × W × D 2354mm (92.7”) × 600mm (23.7”) × 1060mm (41.8”) Weight Up to ~2,518 lbs (~1,145 kg) Max Thermal Output 61,416 BTU/hr Airflow Requirements 145.8 × kVA CFM If you need a rack full of computers that are managed programmatically via an API then this is the machine for you.
  - Aurornis 8mo ago
    Unfortunately you have to read further down in the specs to see the actual hardware details. They’re on older generation hardware, so going by cores and RAM alone isn’t enough to tell you about the speed of those cores and the DDR4 RAM. Hopefully raising money helps them iterate faster on their hardware so they’re not so far behind.
    - zozbot234 8mo ago
      DDR4 is the right choice in this day and age, if they had gone with DDR5 it would have doubled the cost for the whole rack. Looking forward to the discounted DDR3 Opteron-based option.
      - Aurornis 8mo ago
        DDR4 is not being manufactured at scale any more so it’s becoming very expensive too. > if they had gone with DDR5 it would have doubled They charge a premium for their hardware due to the software. They have plenty of room for RAM price fluctuations. It would nowhere near double the price. > Looking forward to the discounted DDR3 Opteron-based option. I know you’re joking, but anything DDR3 based is really slow and power inefficient relative to current gen hardware.
    - panick21_ 8mo ago
      They are already selling the next generation, its just not public. I assume they are focusing on existing costumer and larger orders. While for now in public they still sell the older version. That is at least my guess.
    - db48x 8mo ago
      Not really super relevant given that the question was “Do they sell hardware, software or something else? it is very confusing.”
- sudomateo 8mo ago
  We're working on making this easier to understand. Stay tuned! We know the last decade or so of using public cloud providers has made people forget that hardware and software are things you can own and run successfully. Oxide is exactly that. Hardware and software designed together to give you the public cloud experience on-premises. Disclaimer: I work at Oxide.
  - akshitgaur2005 8mo ago
    I'm the undergrad who commented earlier. I’ve been poking around the Hubris source code and it’s exactly the kind of stack I want to work on. I'm actually doing the Redox Summer of Code this year, focused on implementing an EEVDF scheduler and a performance testing harness for the kernel. From the inside, is Oxide a place where a fresh grad can actually be useful? Or is the "complexity floor" of hardware/software co-design so high that you really just need a few decades of experience to be effective? I'd love a reality check on whether I should keep Oxide as a long-term 10-year goal or if there’s a path for people starting out.
    - sudomateo 8mo ago
      Hey! It's nice to see others excited about Oxide. Hubris is an area of the stack I'm not intimately familiar with, but I'll do my best to answer your questions from my perspective. > From the inside, is Oxide a place where a fresh grad can actually be useful? Or is the "complexity floor" of hardware/software co-design so high that you really just need a few decades of experience to be effective? I believe Bryan spoke about this publicly on podcast episodes in the past but the answer really is no and yes. Generally, the things we're working on at Oxide require a both depth and breadth of knowledge in various areas of the stack that early career folks don't yet possess. We also have limited bandwidth to assist early career folks because of our small company size. I know this sounds like gate keeping, but mostly everyone at Oxide wants to support early career folks. Unfortunately, the general consensus has been that we just don't have the bandwidth for it and it would be a disservice to a candidate to hire them and not support them the way they would need to be supported. That being said, we're getting bigger and will likely have more bandwidth to change this stance as time passes. If you see a role you'd be a good fit for I do recommend applying. The application process itself is valuable for the applicant.

by bflesch 8mo ago

Their website is so nice and smooth even on my shitty computer, not like the other announcement pages of major companies that only work on state of the art macbooks.

greatgib 8mo ago

The website looks good but it is very hard to know what they do exactly and what they sell, if you can be their customer or not just browsing the website. If you don't know them before. Like do they sell a service or a product. Do they sell hardware, software or something else? it is very confusing.

db48x 8mo ago
I think https://oxide.computer/product/specifications https://oxide.computer/product/specifications makes it pretty clear: Compute Sleds (Total) 16, 24, or 32 CPU Cores 1024–2048 Memory (DRAM) 8–32 TiB Storage 465.75–931.5 TiB Network Switches 2 Switching Capacity 12.8 Tbit/s Power Shelves Up to 2 Power Supplies per Shelf 6 (5+1 or 3+3) Typical / Max Power Draw 12 / 15 kW Dimensions H × W × D 2354mm (92.7”) × 600mm (23.7”) × 1060mm (41.8”) Weight Up to ~2,518 lbs (~1,145 kg) Max Thermal Output 61,416 BTU/hr Airflow Requirements 145.8 × kVA CFM If you need a rack full of computers that are managed programmatically via an API then this is the machine for you.
- Aurornis 8mo ago
  Unfortunately you have to read further down in the specs to see the actual hardware details. They’re on older generation hardware, so going by cores and RAM alone isn’t enough to tell you about the speed of those cores and the DDR4 RAM. Hopefully raising money helps them iterate faster on their hardware so they’re not so far behind.
  - zozbot234 8mo ago
    DDR4 is the right choice in this day and age, if they had gone with DDR5 it would have doubled the cost for the whole rack. Looking forward to the discounted DDR3 Opteron-based option.
    - Aurornis 8mo ago
      DDR4 is not being manufactured at scale any more so it’s becoming very expensive too. > if they had gone with DDR5 it would have doubled They charge a premium for their hardware due to the software. They have plenty of room for RAM price fluctuations. It would nowhere near double the price. > Looking forward to the discounted DDR3 Opteron-based option. I know you’re joking, but anything DDR3 based is really slow and power inefficient relative to current gen hardware.
  - panick21_ 8mo ago
    They are already selling the next generation, its just not public. I assume they are focusing on existing costumer and larger orders. While for now in public they still sell the older version. That is at least my guess.
  - db48x 8mo ago
    Not really super relevant given that the question was “Do they sell hardware, software or something else? it is very confusing.”
sudomateo 8mo ago
We're working on making this easier to understand. Stay tuned! We know the last decade or so of using public cloud providers has made people forget that hardware and software are things you can own and run successfully. Oxide is exactly that. Hardware and software designed together to give you the public cloud experience on-premises. Disclaimer: I work at Oxide.
- akshitgaur2005 8mo ago
  I'm the undergrad who commented earlier. I’ve been poking around the Hubris source code and it’s exactly the kind of stack I want to work on. I'm actually doing the Redox Summer of Code this year, focused on implementing an EEVDF scheduler and a performance testing harness for the kernel. From the inside, is Oxide a place where a fresh grad can actually be useful? Or is the "complexity floor" of hardware/software co-design so high that you really just need a few decades of experience to be effective? I'd love a reality check on whether I should keep Oxide as a long-term 10-year goal or if there’s a path for people starting out.
  - sudomateo 8mo ago
    Hey! It's nice to see others excited about Oxide. Hubris is an area of the stack I'm not intimately familiar with, but I'll do my best to answer your questions from my perspective. > From the inside, is Oxide a place where a fresh grad can actually be useful? Or is the "complexity floor" of hardware/software co-design so high that you really just need a few decades of experience to be effective? I believe Bryan spoke about this publicly on podcast episodes in the past but the answer really is no and yes. Generally, the things we're working on at Oxide require a both depth and breadth of knowledge in various areas of the stack that early career folks don't yet possess. We also have limited bandwidth to assist early career folks because of our small company size. I know this sounds like gate keeping, but mostly everyone at Oxide wants to support early career folks. Unfortunately, the general consensus has been that we just don't have the bandwidth for it and it would be a disservice to a candidate to hire them and not support them the way they would need to be supported. That being said, we're getting bigger and will likely have more bandwidth to change this stance as time passes. If you see a role you'd be a good fit for I do recommend applying. The application process itself is valuable for the applicant.