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Could someone explains to me what the secret is here? Apart from the fancy marketing, is it the full integration? The hardware? It took me a while to find an ac
by wasmainiac 8mo ago
Could someone explains to me what the secret is here? Apart from the fancy marketing, is it the full integration? The hardware? It took me a while to find an actual picture of one of the modules.
- cj 8mo agoRelated question: Are services like AWS Outpost from public clouds the main competitor for Oxide?
- bri3d 8mo agoI don’t know who they see as competitors in market positioning (ie, who is selling against them on their target buyer’s calendar). But the space is called hyperconverged computing and there are a few other players like Scale Computing building “racks you buy that run your VMs.”
- jabart 8mo agoFrom the podcasts they talk a little about their clients. It's people who want something like AWS Outpost but fully disconnected and independent from any cloud and running 100% local.
- FuriouslyAdrift 8mo agoMore like Nutanix, Xen, IBM, Kubernetes... private cloud, colo, on-premise... etc. There's a ton of stuff (I'd bet the majority) of compute workload in business that is local/colo and not cloud.
- panick21_ 8mo agoI don't think that is the 'main' competitor. But its certaintly 'a' competitor for companies that already have put a lot of their eggs into the AWS basket.
- delusional 8mo agoThe selling point, from the looks of it, is an on-prem cloud where you own the hardware. For the business guys they're focusing on price and sovereignty. Owning your business. For technical people they are focusing on quality. Not having to deal with integration bugs.
- msh 8mo agoTurn key well designed onprem private cloud.
- specialist 8mo agoYes and: IIRC, Bryan Cantrill has compared the value proposition of an Oxide (rack?) to an IBM AS/400.
- ndesaulniers 8mo agoFor those of us who are unaware of "the value proposition" of an "IBM AS/400," could someone spell it out for us?
- dafelst 8mo agoHigh capacity, super reliable box that you could run your entire business stack on, if you could afford it.
- panick21_ 8mo agoThe money IBM made with the AS/400 is actually completely mind blowing when you compare it to the rest of the computing industry at the time.
- jasonwatkinspdx 8mo agoWhen the AS/400 came out circa 1989 or whatever, you could replace an entire mainframe with a box not much bigger than a mini fridge. The hardware is built for high reliability, and the OS and application software stack have a lot of integration. If Unix is "everything is a file" then AS/400 is "everything is a persistent object in a flat 64 bit address space." The result is a system that can handle years of operation with no downtime. The platform got very popular with huge retailers for this reason. Then in later years the platform got the ability to run Linux or Windows VMs, so that they could benefit from the reliability features.
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- bri3d 8mo agoThey’re players in a newish market segment called “hyperconverged,” basically “you buy a rack and it runs your workload, you don’t worry about individual systems/interconnect/networking etc because we handled it.” Oxide seem to be the best and most thorough in their space because they have chosen to own the stack from the firmware upwards. For someone who cares in that dimension they are a clear leader already on that basis alone, for other buyers who don’t, hopefully it also makes their product superior to use as well.
- FuriouslyAdrift 8mo agoMicrosoft and Nutanix have had a hyperconverged architecture for over a decade. Oxide is mostly an alternative to Nutanix or other soup-to-nuts private clouds. Oxide is a really nice platform. I keep trying to manipulate things at work to justify the buy in (I really want to play wiht their stuff), but they aren't going for it.
- nubinetwork 8mo agoAfaik nutanix doesn't sell a custom rack, running custom firmware, preloaded with their software though.
- mindwok 8mo agoThe first attempts at hyperconverged were very hardware focused and kinda meh. Nutanix is the best example - they pioneered hyperconverged hardware but the firmware/software was extremely average. Oxide are the first to say "it should just feel like cloud, except you own it" and building for that.
- FuriouslyAdrift 8mo agoOxide hardware is very well put together
- fulafel 8mo agoSo a bit like SeaMicro in the 00's but with more software?
- newsclues 8mo agoOwning instead of renting, for cost and control, without giving up the benefits of the cloud.
- bmitch3020 8mo agoRack scale computing, on both the software and hardware side. That means building custom network switching, power management, etc, in a turn key solution that drops in to a customer's data center. Unbox it, plugin a few connections, make a few configuration settings, and start deploying. It's the on-prem response to the cloud for companies running things at scale.
- treis 8mo agoCompanies spend an eye watering amount of money on AWS relative the underlying hardware cost. There's definitely a market for something like a mainframe that runs K8s, Postgres, Redis, and the like where you buy once and then run forever. I don't know if it's true or not but it seems like our AWS bill is something like paying the full purchase price of the underlying hardware every month.
- TimTheTinker 8mo agoAWS supplies a significant portion (was it something like 50%?) of Amazon's overall profits.
- myroon5 8mo ago57% of operating income in 2025: https://ir.aboutamazon.com/quarterly-results/default.aspx https://ir.aboutamazon.com/quarterly-results/default.aspx
- qaq 8mo agoYou can get same type of hardware/software setup that hyperscailers use for their datacenters for your on-prem workloads.