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This means the bible is CSAM now. Genesis 19:30 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis%2019:30-38&version=NIV https://www.biblegateway.com/passag

• globular-toast 9mo ago
  The Bible never ceases to amaze. I keep a copy just to flick through and find shocking sections at random every now and then. Deuteronomy is particular spicy. I hadn't found this one, though. Nice. Incestuous rape and possibly involving children! I wonder what "meaning" and "moral" people are able to dream out of this one.
  • TrnsltLife 9mo ago
    Incest laws weren't given to Israel until Moses and the Exodus. As for meaning: Lot was date raped by his daughters. It shows the moral corruption of Sodom had affected his family. It's also a historical and genealogical account of how the nations of Moab and Ammon began. Abraham's nephew Lot, and his daughters, though originally close family to Abraham, became the progenitors of nations that later oppressed the nation of Israel. 36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.
• Markoff 9mo ago
  1. we don't know their age, we only know they were virgins 2. they could be adult virgins 3. they deliberately made him drunk so he won't know anything and forced him to have sex with them not remembering it not sure how is this CSAM, just because it's incest, doesn't mean it's CSAM, and by your logic they were his "children", then everyone is someone's child and literally all porn is CSAM then
  • tosti 9mo ago
    The situation was such that they lived far off because their city was destroyed. There would've been no more offspring. Oddly enough, Lot is a man and his daughters slept with their father. Anyway, the sex was incestuous and therefore your conclusion is invalid because it disregards that fact. Of course when adults of different families have sex it's not child abuse, that goes without saying. But you do have a good point that the age of the 2 daughters wasn't mentioned.
    • TrnsltLife 9mo ago
      Whatever their age was, they were betrothed to be married to men who didn't evacuate when warned: 14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the Lord is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.
    • Markoff 9mo ago
      what has incest to do with CSAM? you are aware that you can have incest even while being adult, right?