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Another closed model dressed up as "coming soon" open source. The pattern is obvious: generate hype with a polished demo, lock the weights, then quietly move on
by singularfutur 8mo ago
Another closed model dressed up as "coming soon" open source. The pattern is obvious: generate hype with a polished demo, lock the weights, then quietly move on. Real open source doesn't need a press release countdown.
- kkzz99 8mo agoGood that we have the arbitrator of what "real open source" is and isn't over here.
- yellowapple 8mo ago“Open source” is indeed an objective standard with actual criteria, and not just vibes. Luckily, it seems previous Qwen models did get open-sourced in the actual sense, so this one probably will be, too.
- kkzz99 8mo agoIts one NGO trying to dictate what "open source" is and btw. according to that definition, Qwen isn't open source.
- yellowapple 8mo ago> Its one NGO trying to dictate what "open source" is If you're referring to the OSI, they're the ones who invented the term “open source” in the first place, and are authoritative on what counts as “open source” and what doesn't. > and btw. according to that definition, Qwen isn't open source. Well yes, the lack of open-sourcing being the context of this thread :)
- yorwba 8mo agoWhere do you see a press release countdown? Alibaba consistently doesn't release weights for their biggest models, but they also don't pretend that they do.
- singularfutur 8mo agofair enough, I read too quickly the article.
- vunderba 8mo agoThat's not what they did with Qwen-Image v1 - they announced it and it was available via API, but then they released the weights a few weeks after with an Apache 2.0 license. Let's at least give them the benefit of the doubt here.