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Absolutely hideous, alienating, and inhuman. Not everything in cities needs to very preserved.

by eigenspace 8mo ago

risoalin 8mo ago
It is beautiful. Please don't be so bigotedly anti-concrete.
- eru 8mo ago
  Concrete is great, but that thing is still quite ugly.
__alexs 8mo ago
It is actually one of the most alive and welcoming spaces in London.
e1ghtSpace 8mo ago
Your username is very similar to mine.
TomWhitwell 8mo ago
It’s not an exaggeration to say that every day of the year, from maybe noon to midnight, these buildings are surrounded by people enjoying the city - walking along the river, going to arts events, eating out, walking between offices. It’s a hugely popular free public resource that is a massive good for Londoners. Previously (not here but at other points on the river) the water front was private - accessible only to people inside buildings - or derelict, like the areas around Tate Modern and Tower Bridge. This is one of the most human and whatever the opposite of alienating spaces in London today.
LightBug1 8mo ago
The Southbank Centre is one of the cultural gems of London and, I'd argue, the world ... you can have your opinion on what it looks like from the outside, but what goes on inside and around it make it incredibly valuable ... so what I assume is your off-the-cuff remark is way off.
- eigenspace 8mo ago
  I was talking about the architecture, which is the topic of this thread. Of course it's the home to great art, but that does not make it a *building* worthy of architectural distinction or historical protection.
  - LightBug1 8mo ago
    That's fair, but arguable. At this stage I think the architecture and it's reason to be are now so deeply intertwined that you cannot separate them (or would ruin it with the attempt). I've seen instances where a building is all about what takes place there, demolished, re-built, and lose their soul and former purpose. I can easily see that happening with the Southbank. It's iconic and embedded so deeply at this stage, despite the the various opinions on its looks.

Absolutely hideous, alienating, and inhuman. Not everything in cities needs to very preserved.

risoalin 8mo ago

It is beautiful. Please don't be so bigotedly anti-concrete.

eru 8mo ago
Concrete is great, but that thing is still quite ugly.

__alexs 8mo ago

It is actually one of the most alive and welcoming spaces in London.

e1ghtSpace 8mo ago

Your username is very similar to mine.

TomWhitwell 8mo ago

It’s not an exaggeration to say that every day of the year, from maybe noon to midnight, these buildings are surrounded by people enjoying the city - walking along the river, going to arts events, eating out, walking between offices. It’s a hugely popular free public resource that is a massive good for Londoners. Previously (not here but at other points on the river) the water front was private - accessible only to people inside buildings - or derelict, like the areas around Tate Modern and Tower Bridge. This is one of the most human and whatever the opposite of alienating spaces in London today.

LightBug1 8mo ago

The Southbank Centre is one of the cultural gems of London and, I'd argue, the world ... you can have your opinion on what it looks like from the outside, but what goes on inside and around it make it incredibly valuable ... so what I assume is your off-the-cuff remark is way off.

eigenspace 8mo ago
I was talking about the architecture, which is the topic of this thread. Of course it's the home to great art, but that does not make it a *building* worthy of architectural distinction or historical protection.
- LightBug1 8mo ago
  That's fair, but arguable. At this stage I think the architecture and it's reason to be are now so deeply intertwined that you cannot separate them (or would ruin it with the attempt). I've seen instances where a building is all about what takes place there, demolished, re-built, and lose their soul and former purpose. I can easily see that happening with the Southbank. It's iconic and embedded so deeply at this stage, despite the the various opinions on its looks.