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> Pay through the nose for Opus or GPT-7.9-xhigh-with-cheese. Don't worry, it's only for a few years. > You have to turn off the sandbox, which means you have

> Pay through the nose for Opus or GPT-7.9-xhigh-with-cheese. Don't worry, it's only for a few years. > You have to turn off the sandbox, which means you have to provide your own sandbox. I have tried just about everything and I highly recommend: use a fresh VM. > I am extremely out of touch with anti-LLM arguments 'Just pay out the arse and run models without a sandbox or in some annoying VM just to see them fail. Wait, some people are against this?'

dude250711 9mo ago
Well, not 'against' per se, just watching LLM-enthusiasts tumble in the mud for now. Though I have heard that if I don't jump into the mud this instance, I will be left behind apparently for some reason. So you either get left behind or get a muddy behind, your choice.
- pferde 9mo ago
  Everybody keeps saying the models are getting better, the tooling is getting better, people are discovering better practices... So why not just wait out this insane initial phase, and if anything is left standing afterwards and proves itself, just learn that.
  - kjksf 9mo ago
    Because there's nothing to learn. "learning" to use claude code is less effort than learning how to use the basics of git. They provide value today so I'm using them today.
    - Expurple 9mo ago
      This. If you use a modern frontier model like Opus 4.5, there's nothing to learn. No special prompting techniques. You give it a task, and most of the time it's capable of solving a big chunk quickly. You still need to babysit it, review its plan/code and make adjustments. But that's already faster than achieving the same results manually. Especially when you're at low energy levels and can't bring yourself to look into a task and figure it out from zero.
CGamesPlay 9mo ago
In case you missed the several links, exe.dev is his startup which provides sandboxing for agents. So it makes sense he wants to get people used to paying for agents and in need of a good sandbox.
skybrian 9mo ago
I'm doing web development in a VM (on exe.dev) and it works quite nicely.

dude250711 9mo ago

Well, not 'against' per se, just watching LLM-enthusiasts tumble in the mud for now. Though I have heard that if I don't jump into the mud this instance, I will be left behind apparently for some reason. So you either get left behind or get a muddy behind, your choice.

pferde 9mo ago
Everybody keeps saying the models are getting better, the tooling is getting better, people are discovering better practices... So why not just wait out this insane initial phase, and if anything is left standing afterwards and proves itself, just learn that.
- kjksf 9mo ago
  Because there's nothing to learn. "learning" to use claude code is less effort than learning how to use the basics of git. They provide value today so I'm using them today.
  - Expurple 9mo ago
    This. If you use a modern frontier model like Opus 4.5, there's nothing to learn. No special prompting techniques. You give it a task, and most of the time it's capable of solving a big chunk quickly. You still need to babysit it, review its plan/code and make adjustments. But that's already faster than achieving the same results manually. Especially when you're at low energy levels and can't bring yourself to look into a task and figure it out from zero.

CGamesPlay 9mo ago

In case you missed the several links, exe.dev is his startup which provides sandboxing for agents. So it makes sense he wants to get people used to paying for agents and in need of a good sandbox.

skybrian 9mo ago

I'm doing web development in a VM (on exe.dev) and it works quite nicely.