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Is there a way an American can vote to not buy F-35s?

cheonn638 8mo ago
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bigyabai 8mo ago
You can try; the plane is already made and exported, and for certain customers (eg. the US Navy) they're going to struggle to find anything that replaces it. The best way to invest "against" the F-35 is to put money in companies like Embraer and Saab, which have put up a strong fight on the export market.
- jerkstate 8mo ago
  Why? What makes an expensive murder machine manufactured in Brazil or Sweden more morally acceptable than a murder machine manufactured in the USA?
  - bigyabai 8mo ago
    In case it wasn't clear, my answer to your original question is "no" with a nice bit of set-dressing to help you feel better. FWIW, the Super Tucano and Gripen are more "morally acceptable" in that they are not power-gap level planes. The F-35 was basically designed from the ground-up to molest denied airspace and violate every rule of diplomatic exchange. The Super Tucano is useless outside COIN operations, and the Gripen is decidedly a defensive fighter and not a strike fighter.
bigstrat2003 8mo ago
This is why, on so many issues, the idea that the American public "chose" the outcome is a fantasy. When every possible candidate for office supports the military industrial complex, how is one supposed to vote against it?
pseudohadamard 8mo ago
Technically, yes, but I'm not sure if Canada would accept that many immigrants.
- jerkstate 8mo ago
  Canada is buying F-35s too...
Gud 8mo ago
Yes, widespread democratic reform.
godelski 8mo ago
Yes, indirectly Go to this website[0], type in your zipcode, and write a letter or email to the address provided. It may also help reading this[2] [0] https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member [1] https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representati... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy

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You can try; the plane is already made and exported, and for certain customers (eg. the US Navy) they're going to struggle to find anything that replaces it. The best way to invest "against" the F-35 is to put money in companies like Embraer and Saab, which have put up a strong fight on the export market.

jerkstate 8mo ago
Why? What makes an expensive murder machine manufactured in Brazil or Sweden more morally acceptable than a murder machine manufactured in the USA?
- bigyabai 8mo ago
  In case it wasn't clear, my answer to your original question is "no" with a nice bit of set-dressing to help you feel better. FWIW, the Super Tucano and Gripen are more "morally acceptable" in that they are not power-gap level planes. The F-35 was basically designed from the ground-up to molest denied airspace and violate every rule of diplomatic exchange. The Super Tucano is useless outside COIN operations, and the Gripen is decidedly a defensive fighter and not a strike fighter.

bigstrat2003 8mo ago

This is why, on so many issues, the idea that the American public "chose" the outcome is a fantasy. When every possible candidate for office supports the military industrial complex, how is one supposed to vote against it?

pseudohadamard 8mo ago

Technically, yes, but I'm not sure if Canada would accept that many immigrants.

jerkstate 8mo ago
Canada is buying F-35s too...

Gud 8mo ago

Yes, widespread democratic reform.

godelski 8mo ago

Yes, indirectly Go to this website[0], type in your zipcode, and write a letter or email to the address provided. It may also help reading this[2] [0] https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member [1] https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representati... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy