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> Who is the buyer? You are With your tax money. With your votes. They're there not to sell you a plane directly but to make you happy with the money spent.
by godelski 9mo ago
> Who is the buyer?
You are
With your tax money. With your votes.
They're there not to sell you a plane directly but to make you happy with the money spent. To make you excited about the machines.
Think of it as a political ad, not a sales ad
- jerkstate 9mo agoIs there a way an American can vote to not buy F-35s?
- cheonn638 9mo ago[dead]
- bigyabai 9mo agoYou can try; the plane is already made and exported, and for certain customers (eg. the US Navy) they're going to struggle to find anything that replaces it. The best way to invest "against" the F-35 is to put money in companies like Embraer and Saab, which have put up a strong fight on the export market.
- jerkstate 9mo agoWhy? What makes an expensive murder machine manufactured in Brazil or Sweden more morally acceptable than a murder machine manufactured in the USA?
- bigyabai 9mo agoIn case it wasn't clear, my answer to your original question is "no" with a nice bit of set-dressing to help you feel better. FWIW, the Super Tucano and Gripen are more "morally acceptable" in that they are not power-gap level planes. The F-35 was basically designed from the ground-up to molest denied airspace and violate every rule of diplomatic exchange. The Super Tucano is useless outside COIN operations, and the Gripen is decidedly a defensive fighter and not a strike fighter.
- bigstrat2003 9mo agoThis is why, on so many issues, the idea that the American public "chose" the outcome is a fantasy. When every possible candidate for office supports the military industrial complex, how is one supposed to vote against it?
- pseudohadamard 9mo agoTechnically, yes, but I'm not sure if Canada would accept that many immigrants.
- jerkstate 9mo agoCanada is buying F-35s too...
- Gud 9mo agoYes, widespread democratic reform.
- godelski 9mo agoYes, indirectly Go to this website[0], type in your zipcode, and write a letter or email to the address provided. It may also help reading this[2] [0] https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member [1] https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representati... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
- asdff 9mo agoThey fly over the superbowl every year no matter how I might vote.
- godelski 9mo agoThen go out and campaign to convince others to vote more similarly to you. It would be a bad government if asdff's votes got to overrule everyone else's. Your favored candidate can lose. But the best thing to do is convince others to rally behind your candidate and your ideas. Mind you, you can also write your congress critter. It's a bit more effective than writing to random people on the internet.
- monksy 9mo ago> With your tax money. With your votes. I certainly didn't vote for that Duckworth (D) kept voting for surveillance. (KOSA, EARNIT, etc)
- godelski 9mo agoBecause she's not your representative or because your favored candidate lost? Either way, fundamentally your vote is not supposed to be more powerful than anyone else's (even if that does happen...): and it is a (representative) democracy.