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> I have nothing to hide What's your full name and current address? Where do you work? What locations do you frequent in your day-to-day life? Who do you live

> I have nothing to hide What's your full name and current address? Where do you work? What locations do you frequent in your day-to-day life? Who do you live with and spend the most time with? Can you please list their full names and contact information? Would you mind turning on location tracking on your phone? Once you've done this, let me know and I'll email you so you can share it with me.

roughly 8mo ago
Also, what church do you attend? Is it the right one? Who’d you vote for last time? Who do you plan to vote for this time? Is your spouse or romantic partner the right kind of person? Are you sure? What hobbies do you have? What books are you reading? What’s really going on in that head of yours?
- kemotep 8mo ago
  We’re going to need bank accounts. Not just the account number and routing number, to validate transaction history against known Terrorist organization affiliated bank accounts but also their login information so we can review credit card statements and so on. Because they have nothing hide they shouldn’t fear anyone being able to access this information after all.
toephu2 8mo ago
But Flock doesn't ask for this nor does it gather this information. I know what you are trying to do. You are trying to say this is just the first step to a full invasion of privacy. Except it's not. They are trying to make America safer. They don't want full control of your life. You are taking this example too far to the extreme. Also Flock cameras just record license plates. Have you ever been to South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore or any other democratic nation with lots of CCTVs? Have you seen the crime rates there? basically 0. I wish we could have those levels of crime in the U.S.
- text0404 8mo ago
  Oh but they do [1][2]! It's very suspicious that you're being so uncooperative. I'm starting a Flock competitor and we sell our products to law enforcement and private businesses [3]. You seem to be against giving me this data, which feels anti-American and against traditional American values which are clearly afoul of NSPM-7 [4]. This will earn you a label of "potential domestic terrorist" in our database [5]. This, in combination with your "ethnic"-sounding username is enough to gain the attention of our users [6][7], so I suggest you comply to make America safer. Why don't we start with something simpler? How about just your license plate number, current location, and a photograph of your vehicle taken while you're driving it (ideally along routes which we know you take so that you're not flagged [8][9])? Flock collects this information (along with a history of where that plate was recognized), so surely this shouldn't be an issue? [1] https://www.404media.co/license-plate-reader-company-flock-is-building-a-massive-people-lookup-tool-leak-shows/ https://www.404media.co/license-plate-reader-company-flock-i... [2] https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-nova https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-nova [3] https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/flock-launches-first-ever-business-network-strengthen-private-sector-security-collaboration https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/flock-launches-first-ever-b... [4] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/coun... [5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46903556 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46903556 [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop [7] https://www.404media.co/emails-reveal-the-casual-surveillance-alliance-between-ice-and-local-police/ https://www.404media.co/emails-reveal-the-casual-surveillanc... [8] https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-patrol-surveillance-drivers-ice-trump-9f5d05469ce8c629d6fecf32d32098cd https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-patrol-surveil... [9] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46909480 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46909480
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topocite 8mo ago
I mean data brokers already do know all this. I completely agree with you in spirit but I just can't imagine in 25 years, people won't be wearing spacial computing AR glasses with face recognition and all this is going to be out in the open. If we were not going to evolve into a total surveillance state we wouldn't be at the state we are now. We need to learn this lesson from 1984 "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
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roughly 8mo ago

Also, what church do you attend? Is it the right one? Who’d you vote for last time? Who do you plan to vote for this time? Is your spouse or romantic partner the right kind of person? Are you sure? What hobbies do you have? What books are you reading? What’s really going on in that head of yours?

kemotep 8mo ago
We’re going to need bank accounts. Not just the account number and routing number, to validate transaction history against known Terrorist organization affiliated bank accounts but also their login information so we can review credit card statements and so on. Because they have nothing hide they shouldn’t fear anyone being able to access this information after all.

toephu2 8mo ago

But Flock doesn't ask for this nor does it gather this information. I know what you are trying to do. You are trying to say this is just the first step to a full invasion of privacy. Except it's not. They are trying to make America safer. They don't want full control of your life. You are taking this example too far to the extreme. Also Flock cameras just record license plates. Have you ever been to South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore or any other democratic nation with lots of CCTVs? Have you seen the crime rates there? basically 0. I wish we could have those levels of crime in the U.S.

text0404 8mo ago
Oh but they do [1][2]! It's very suspicious that you're being so uncooperative. I'm starting a Flock competitor and we sell our products to law enforcement and private businesses [3]. You seem to be against giving me this data, which feels anti-American and against traditional American values which are clearly afoul of NSPM-7 [4]. This will earn you a label of "potential domestic terrorist" in our database [5]. This, in combination with your "ethnic"-sounding username is enough to gain the attention of our users [6][7], so I suggest you comply to make America safer. Why don't we start with something simpler? How about just your license plate number, current location, and a photograph of your vehicle taken while you're driving it (ideally along routes which we know you take so that you're not flagged [8][9])? Flock collects this information (along with a history of where that plate was recognized), so surely this shouldn't be an issue? [1] https://www.404media.co/license-plate-reader-company-flock-is-building-a-massive-people-lookup-tool-leak-shows/ https://www.404media.co/license-plate-reader-company-flock-i... [2] https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-nova https://www.flocksafety.com/products/flock-nova [3] https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/flock-launches-first-ever-business-network-strengthen-private-sector-security-collaboration https://www.flocksafety.com/blog/flock-launches-first-ever-b... [4] https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/coun... [5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46903556 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46903556 [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop [7] https://www.404media.co/emails-reveal-the-casual-surveillance-alliance-between-ice-and-local-police/ https://www.404media.co/emails-reveal-the-casual-surveillanc... [8] https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-patrol-surveillance-drivers-ice-trump-9f5d05469ce8c629d6fecf32d32098cd https://apnews.com/article/immigration-border-patrol-surveil... [9] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46909480 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46909480
- toephu2 8mo ago
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topocite 8mo ago

I mean data brokers already do know all this. I completely agree with you in spirit but I just can't imagine in 25 years, people won't be wearing spacial computing AR glasses with face recognition and all this is going to be out in the open. If we were not going to evolve into a total surveillance state we wouldn't be at the state we are now. We need to learn this lesson from 1984 "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."

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