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Does this base itself on the metric started in 1963, that was eseentially a big guess that 3x starvation level was well off? because we have better numbers now.
by downrightmike 9mo ago
Does this base itself on the metric started in 1963, that was eseentially a big guess that 3x starvation level was well off? because we have better numbers now. Avg us salary is 60k, but to take car of the needs of a family of 4, not in starvation range is ~$160k/year
- 0xbadcafebee 9mo agohttps://livingwage.mit.edu/pages/methodology https://livingwage.mit.edu/pages/methodology
- lelandbatey 9mo agoPut in an area and see for yourself. In general, yes this calculator is closer to what you're describing. For example, Skamania County, a pretty rural county of Washington state with a very low population of 12,000 people, still has a "required living wage" for 1 breadwinner + 1 homemaker + 3 children of $104,292 per year: https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/53059 https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/53059 That feels pretty close to accurate.
- chasd00 9mo agoYeah Dallas county Texas, where I live, for family of 4 and 2 working adults is around $105k/year. That seems close, there’s nothing secure about that long term (no room for savings or retirement) but it’s livable.
- ninalanyon 9mo agoHow can you need that much money to not starve? According to Wikipedia[1] median household income in the US and Norway is only about a quarter of your 160 kUSD. I'm pretty sure that most of the people living near me in Norway are not high earners but I don't see any signs of starvation either. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income
- etchalon 9mo agoNorway has many wonderful things American voters are terrified of giving people less they use them.
- downrightmike 9mo agoUSA site. USA metrics. USA Comment. I vote to get the same things you all have, but your assumption is that Norway matters in this context is foolish
- ninalanyon 9mo agoMy assumption was the the US numbers that I quoted mattered, they simply happen to be roughly the same as Norway's.
- nomel 9mo ago> not in starvation range is ~$160k/year That highly depends on your definition of "need" and where you live. If you're in a city with ludicrous cost of living, like San Fransisco, then sure. But, that's also why people commute, or just choose to go somewhere cheaper. It's somewhat shocking seeing how much higher the standard of living is, with much less income, outside the big cities.
- Exoristos 9mo agoIn the U.S., a family of four technically doesn't need any money "not to starve," because SNAP covers the cost of groceries if providers are unable.