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If you take a seasoned motorcycle rider and put them in one of those dashcam subs, they'll rip their hair out. Most people have near zero defensive driving ski

If you take a seasoned motorcycle rider and put them in one of those dashcam subs, they'll rip their hair out. Most people have near zero defensive driving skill, and view someone pulling out in front of them as "nothing I could have done", when the dashcam shows the offending driver showed 5 signs of pulling out ages before the accident occurred.

RupertSalt 9mo ago
A seasoned motorcycle rider should be unable to rip out any hair, due to safely wearing a helmet!
- Mawr 9mo ago
  A helmet is priority #100. If your helmet ever comes into play, you've fucked up so bad it'll probably not help you much.
organsnyder 9mo ago
I'm definitely a better driver because of bicycling. You gain new skills when you know that you're going to come out the loser in almost every collision.
- cucumber3732842 9mo ago
  If you cycle and it doesn't make you a better driver (and pedestrian) you're probably a bad driver and a bad cyclist.
doubled112 9mo ago
At one point in my life I rode a bicycle 40+ km per day. I see things nobody else seems to and I think that has a lot to do with it. I cannot win the collision. Much of being a good driver is just awareness. One time my light turns green, I don't go. As my wife asks what I'm waiting for, a pickup blows the light. We weren't the first car at that light, and years later she still talks about how there's no way I could know. Well, I didn't get us t-boned at 80 so I must have done something right.
dghlsakjg 9mo ago
Cyclists too. I do both and I am constantly surprised at the lack of situational awareness of drivers when I’m a passenger in their cars. I think truckers probably get the same thing too.
- matsemann 9mo ago
  Same, I cycle everywhere and almost feels like I've developed a sixth sense for when a driver will do something stupid.
dgunay 9mo ago
Very true. There is a "body language" to driving. I can often predict when someone will change lanes before they ever turn their signal on (if they even do that) by the way their speed changes and they drift a bit in their lane as they shift their eyes to their mirrors.

RupertSalt 9mo ago

A seasoned motorcycle rider should be unable to rip out any hair, due to safely wearing a helmet!

Mawr 9mo ago
A helmet is priority #100. If your helmet ever comes into play, you've fucked up so bad it'll probably not help you much.

organsnyder 9mo ago

I'm definitely a better driver because of bicycling. You gain new skills when you know that you're going to come out the loser in almost every collision.

cucumber3732842 9mo ago
If you cycle and it doesn't make you a better driver (and pedestrian) you're probably a bad driver and a bad cyclist.

doubled112 9mo ago

At one point in my life I rode a bicycle 40+ km per day. I see things nobody else seems to and I think that has a lot to do with it. I cannot win the collision. Much of being a good driver is just awareness. One time my light turns green, I don't go. As my wife asks what I'm waiting for, a pickup blows the light. We weren't the first car at that light, and years later she still talks about how there's no way I could know. Well, I didn't get us t-boned at 80 so I must have done something right.

dghlsakjg 9mo ago

Cyclists too. I do both and I am constantly surprised at the lack of situational awareness of drivers when I’m a passenger in their cars. I think truckers probably get the same thing too.

matsemann 9mo ago
Same, I cycle everywhere and almost feels like I've developed a sixth sense for when a driver will do something stupid.

dgunay 9mo ago

Very true. There is a "body language" to driving. I can often predict when someone will change lanes before they ever turn their signal on (if they even do that) by the way their speed changes and they drift a bit in their lane as they shift their eyes to their mirrors.