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They're really good to use if someone wants to debate you and you don't want to engage Most people prefer to change their minds on their own terms and schedule

They're really good to use if someone wants to debate you and you don't want to engage Most people prefer to change their minds on their own terms and schedule. I'm also surprised there's not a 'most people..." thought-terminating cliche on this page

kylecazar 8mo ago
Yeah, the only time I'll whip out one of these is when I'm in a conversation that has no chance of going anywhere. Of course they should be avoided in actual good faith argument, but they're handy as a social tool when you need a mode of egress that's softer than the alternative. Anyone who has old friends that became politically radical will know the dance.
- AnimalMuppet 8mo ago
  At least once, I have done the following: "Here's why I disagree with your position. [supply a concise statement]. I'm done with the conversation here, but I'll let you have the last word." It conveys disagreement. It conveys that I'm out. But it's still respectful.
- AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
  Then why not directly say: “well you and I disagree on this and so that it’s not worth engaging in further let’s switch to a new topic”
  - kylecazar 8mo ago
    Right, that is the same thing as "Let's agree to disagree.", which is an example in this article.
randusername 8mo ago
Agreed. Seems to have a negative connotation, but I think it can be a good thing to put up a barrier against thinking too deeply. I find myself saying stupid things like "ain't that just the way" or "such is life in our times" around those in my life with an endless capacity for political outrage but limited capacity for political action. It's like the magic "yes." when neither "yes and" nor "no" will do.
- AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
  >a barrier against thinking too deeply Can you explain what the risks of “thinking too deeply” are that a barrier to such is beneficial
  - randusername 8mo ago
    My attention is like a freight train. Slow to start, slow to stop, horribly inefficient for small tasks but uniquely economical for heavy long-term loads. TTCs are one way I can politely indicate I am unwilling to think further on this matter right now. Something else is the main thing. Beyond conserving attention, I think TTCs help empaths and religious people establish their boundaries of thought. It's not that thinking deeply is _unsafe_, it's that we can't and/or shouldn't do it at any time for anyone that asks.
    - AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
      Thanks for the response

kylecazar 8mo ago

Yeah, the only time I'll whip out one of these is when I'm in a conversation that has no chance of going anywhere. Of course they should be avoided in actual good faith argument, but they're handy as a social tool when you need a mode of egress that's softer than the alternative. Anyone who has old friends that became politically radical will know the dance.

AnimalMuppet 8mo ago
At least once, I have done the following: "Here's why I disagree with your position. [supply a concise statement]. I'm done with the conversation here, but I'll let you have the last word." It conveys disagreement. It conveys that I'm out. But it's still respectful.
AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
Then why not directly say: “well you and I disagree on this and so that it’s not worth engaging in further let’s switch to a new topic”
- kylecazar 8mo ago
  Right, that is the same thing as "Let's agree to disagree.", which is an example in this article.

randusername 8mo ago

Agreed. Seems to have a negative connotation, but I think it can be a good thing to put up a barrier against thinking too deeply. I find myself saying stupid things like "ain't that just the way" or "such is life in our times" around those in my life with an endless capacity for political outrage but limited capacity for political action. It's like the magic "yes." when neither "yes and" nor "no" will do.

AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
>a barrier against thinking too deeply Can you explain what the risks of “thinking too deeply” are that a barrier to such is beneficial
- randusername 8mo ago
  My attention is like a freight train. Slow to start, slow to stop, horribly inefficient for small tasks but uniquely economical for heavy long-term loads. TTCs are one way I can politely indicate I am unwilling to think further on this matter right now. Something else is the main thing. Beyond conserving attention, I think TTCs help empaths and religious people establish their boundaries of thought. It's not that thinking deeply is _unsafe_, it's that we can't and/or shouldn't do it at any time for anyone that asks.
  - AndrewKemendo 8mo ago
    Thanks for the response