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We're gonna enter a new age/type of "lost media" as Discord remains popular year over year. It's a complete black hole unless you're manually backing things up.

by Andrex 8mo ago

We're gonna enter a new age/type of "lost media" as Discord remains popular year over year. It's a complete black hole unless you're manually backing things up. No possible Wayback Machine.

zhivota 8mo ago
It's honestly a good thing. People should have social outlets where things are forgotten, not memorialized for all eternity.
- GaryBluto 8mo ago
  Sure, but it's definitely not the return of forums and the fact it is being used in place of forums will cause trouble down the line.
  - armchairhacker 8mo ago
    It's a bad replacement for forums. The Discords I'm active in are all everyday conversations, like big group chats. Some of them are funny/interesting and occasionally someone gives useful advice, but the vast majority are forgettable. I think that people should publicly share valuable information (like great conversations or useful advice) and some of their typical conversations (a context summary for outsiders and history). But privacy and ephemeral-ness make people more open. It may be better to have a space for most conversations where they're not expected to be saved, or (because "not expected" in Discord relies on weak evidence and today's norms) guaranteed not to be saved.
- calvinmorrison 8mo ago
  Yes for social outlets. For niche hobbies? old photos of specific milling machines used in machine shops on board US navy vessels? For 80's european automotive restoration? For repairing and restoring retro-computing devices? Terrible. Terrible Terrible Terrible.
  - jazzyjackson 8mo ago
    Tbf most old forums seem to have lacked photo hosting so all that’s left is photobucket placeholders
- vkou 8mo ago
  They are forgotten for all useful intents and purposes, but a malicious asshole can and will memorialize everything you say on it.
  - somenameforme 8mo ago
    Without a trusted third party doing something like this on a large scale, it doesn't really matter - because 'nah, that's just a fake.' My wife and I were recently talking about how we kind of luck boxed into dodging a bullet when we had kids (which was rather late). But it's no wonder so many people had or are having so many issues growing up in a public social media era. It's not only your right, but responsibility, to say, believe, and generally do stupid things as a kid and a young adult. It's an important part of growing up. Nobody should ever have to worry about this period in their life following them around forever.
    - vkou 8mo ago
      > it doesn't really matter - because 'nah, that's just a fake.' The point of this sort of thing is that whether it is fake or not doesn't matter. Because it is possible for someone to record a log of your activities, someone claiming they have an incriminating log of your activities will be believed (By a very large number of people). It might not be believed in a courtroom, but for the other 99.99% of life, we do not apply the same standards for reviewing evidence. Whether the platform keeps logs isn't important - the platform won't weigh in on this sort of stuff anyways, unless there's a subpoena.
- alanbernstein 8mo ago
  It's not really a good thing for technical discussion and support topics though. Information that others might hope to find by searching the web is no longer discoverable that way.
faresfa 8mo ago
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by Andrex 8mo ago

We're gonna enter a new age/type of "lost media" as Discord remains popular year over year. It's a complete black hole unless you're manually backing things up. No possible Wayback Machine.

zhivota 8mo ago

It's honestly a good thing. People should have social outlets where things are forgotten, not memorialized for all eternity.

GaryBluto 8mo ago
Sure, but it's definitely not the return of forums and the fact it is being used in place of forums will cause trouble down the line.
- armchairhacker 8mo ago
  It's a bad replacement for forums. The Discords I'm active in are all everyday conversations, like big group chats. Some of them are funny/interesting and occasionally someone gives useful advice, but the vast majority are forgettable. I think that people should publicly share valuable information (like great conversations or useful advice) and some of their typical conversations (a context summary for outsiders and history). But privacy and ephemeral-ness make people more open. It may be better to have a space for most conversations where they're not expected to be saved, or (because "not expected" in Discord relies on weak evidence and today's norms) guaranteed not to be saved.
calvinmorrison 8mo ago
Yes for social outlets. For niche hobbies? old photos of specific milling machines used in machine shops on board US navy vessels? For 80's european automotive restoration? For repairing and restoring retro-computing devices? Terrible. Terrible Terrible Terrible.
- jazzyjackson 8mo ago
  Tbf most old forums seem to have lacked photo hosting so all that’s left is photobucket placeholders
vkou 8mo ago
They are forgotten for all useful intents and purposes, but a malicious asshole can and will memorialize everything you say on it.
- somenameforme 8mo ago
  Without a trusted third party doing something like this on a large scale, it doesn't really matter - because 'nah, that's just a fake.' My wife and I were recently talking about how we kind of luck boxed into dodging a bullet when we had kids (which was rather late). But it's no wonder so many people had or are having so many issues growing up in a public social media era. It's not only your right, but responsibility, to say, believe, and generally do stupid things as a kid and a young adult. It's an important part of growing up. Nobody should ever have to worry about this period in their life following them around forever.
  - vkou 8mo ago
    > it doesn't really matter - because 'nah, that's just a fake.' The point of this sort of thing is that whether it is fake or not doesn't matter. Because it is possible for someone to record a log of your activities, someone claiming they have an incriminating log of your activities will be believed (By a very large number of people). It might not be believed in a courtroom, but for the other 99.99% of life, we do not apply the same standards for reviewing evidence. Whether the platform keeps logs isn't important - the platform won't weigh in on this sort of stuff anyways, unless there's a subpoena.
alanbernstein 8mo ago
It's not really a good thing for technical discussion and support topics though. Information that others might hope to find by searching the web is no longer discoverable that way.

faresfa 8mo ago

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