> And not just the definition, but the assumption that a specific toil is necessarily universal. Vigorous agreement. I think more deeply about problems when I

> And not just the definition, but the assumption that a specific toil is necessarily universal. Vigorous agreement. I think more deeply about problems when I put my hands on them-- be that typing code, hand writing notes, etc Likewise some "toil" is very pleasurable to me-- washing dishes, shoveling snow, cleaning. It's definitely personal and not at all universal.