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>If you use an Apple silicon Mac I’m sure you have been impressed by its performance. This article couldn't have come at a better time. Because frankly speakin

by ksec 9mo ago

>If you use an Apple silicon Mac I’m sure you have been impressed by its performance. This article couldn't have come at a better time. Because frankly speaking I am not that impressed after I tested Omarchy Linux. Everything was snappy. It is like back to DOS or Windows 3.11 era. ( Not quite but close ) It makes me wonder why Mac couldn't be like that. Apple Silicon is fast, no doubt about it. It isn't some benchmarks but even under emulation, compiling or other workload it is fast if not the fastest. So there are plenty of evidence it isn't benchmark specific which some people claims Apple is only fast on Geekbench. The problem is macOS is slow. And for whatever reason haven't improved much. I am hoping dropping support for x86 in next macOS meant they have time and excuses to do a lot of work on macOS under the hood. Especially with OOM and Paging.

microtonal 9mo ago
I have a ThinkPad besides my main MacBook. I recently switched to KDE, a full desktop environment, and it is just insane how much faster everything renders than on macOS. And that's on a relatively underpowered integrated Ryzen GPU. Window dragging is butter smooth on a 120Hz screen, which I cannot say of macOS (though it outright terrible with the recent Electron issue). Apple Silicon is awesome and was a game changer when it came out. Still very impressive that they have been able to keep the MacBook Air passively cooled since the first M1. But yeah, macOS is holding it back.
- spockz 9mo ago
  Modern machines are so insanely fast, the UI should almost react before you do an action. My 5900X machine with relatively slow RAM running CachyOS actually almost feels as instant as DOS machines with incredible low latency. Instead, we get tons of layers of abstraction (Electron etc), combined with endpoint security software in the enterprise world that bring any machine to its knees by inspecting every I/O action. Zed is an awesome editor where every interaction is just “snappy”. I feel all the animations and transitions have been introduced to macOS just to paper over slowness. I’ve disabled them via the accessibility settings which helps in perceived snappiness a bit, but it also makes yank visible where performance is not up to par.
  - ksec 9mo ago
    Even when I have disabled everything on macOS it is still no where near the speed on CachyOS / Arch. I have been complaining about latency for more than 15 years and macOS are still no where as fast. Not to mention my original post was downvoted suggesting people disagree.
    - spockz 9mo ago
      I think that is primarily due to the difference in assigned semantics of fast/speed. Yes macOS on Apple hardware is crazy fast in terms of io and throughput. And the cpu is amazing, and it’s unified memory model allows for great things with LLM. But, the keypress to screen is still laggy. Especially compared to CachyOS.

by ksec 9mo ago

microtonal 9mo ago

I have a ThinkPad besides my main MacBook. I recently switched to KDE, a full desktop environment, and it is just insane how much faster everything renders than on macOS. And that's on a relatively underpowered integrated Ryzen GPU. Window dragging is butter smooth on a 120Hz screen, which I cannot say of macOS (though it outright terrible with the recent Electron issue). Apple Silicon is awesome and was a game changer when it came out. Still very impressive that they have been able to keep the MacBook Air passively cooled since the first M1. But yeah, macOS is holding it back.

spockz 9mo ago
Modern machines are so insanely fast, the UI should almost react before you do an action. My 5900X machine with relatively slow RAM running CachyOS actually almost feels as instant as DOS machines with incredible low latency. Instead, we get tons of layers of abstraction (Electron etc), combined with endpoint security software in the enterprise world that bring any machine to its knees by inspecting every I/O action. Zed is an awesome editor where every interaction is just “snappy”. I feel all the animations and transitions have been introduced to macOS just to paper over slowness. I’ve disabled them via the accessibility settings which helps in perceived snappiness a bit, but it also makes yank visible where performance is not up to par.
- ksec 9mo ago
  Even when I have disabled everything on macOS it is still no where near the speed on CachyOS / Arch. I have been complaining about latency for more than 15 years and macOS are still no where as fast. Not to mention my original post was downvoted suggesting people disagree.
  - spockz 9mo ago
    I think that is primarily due to the difference in assigned semantics of fast/speed. Yes macOS on Apple hardware is crazy fast in terms of io and throughput. And the cpu is amazing, and it’s unified memory model allows for great things with LLM. But, the keypress to screen is still laggy. Especially compared to CachyOS.