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This website is one of the biggest culprits
by padjo 8mo ago
This website is one of the biggest culprits
- blurbleblurble 8mo agoNo kidding
- whilenot-dev 8mo agoCare to elaborate? I have showdead set to yes, and while so some articles get a gray color and an occasional [flagged] tag, everything is still searchable[0]. The only form of censorship is the ordering in the news list, but I could pick any other list[1] if I wanted to. [0]: https://hn.algolia.com/ https://hn.algolia.com/ [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists
- padjo 8mo agoThis thread will immediately disappear off the front page once some Americans wake up.
- whilenot-dev 8mo agoFYI [flagged] articles are still present on the front[0] list. I'd suggest you check out the active[1] or the newest[2] list instead. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/front https://news.ycombinator.com/front [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest
- johnnyanmac 8mo agoAnd how many people do you think use these 3 lnks compared to the base URL? That's the clever little ways to censor. You don't need everyone to be unaware, just as many as possible. That's why I tend to search top in the last day and week. Specifically to catch flagged articles like this, since at least the votes don't get undone.
- whilenot-dev 8mo agoPlease, the topic in question is whether HN "is one of the biggest culprits" in "adopting Chinese censorship methods". Granted, I'm far from being knowledgeable in Chinese censorship methods, but I doubt they can be circumvented by just using different URIs.
- johnnyanmac 8mo agoI don't agree with that because HN is a relatively small site. But the methods used here aren't dissimilar to what is happening in this story nor in China. Burying stories is a big part of censorship while minimizing dissent.
- atoav 8mo agoThere we go, it is flagged.
- beardyw 8mo agoPeople flag stuff. I don't think it results in removal automatically though it probably downgrades it as a story. Some may regard this as off topic, but censorship seems to be a recurring subject and regularly discussed.
- watwut 8mo agoYes. When it is complaint about some leftist student protesting and thus interfering with far right speaker free speech rigth to never be opposed, regualarly discussed. Rarely flagged. But, when there is something making current admin or far right lool bad, flagged quickly
- beardyw 8mo agoNot sure if HN monitors brigading.
- whilenot-dev 8mo ago...so what? "Most stories about politics" are considered Off-Topic, as per the guidelines[0], and some members favor the flag- over the hide-button more than I'd like. It's still on place 19 on the active list[1], and a far cry from any practiced censorship like on Reddit, where stuff just gets [deleted] out of existence. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active