4 ms·

Let's not forget: Aliyun OS is an admitted illegal closed-source Linux fork (And likely an Android ripoff). Perhaps China should comply with basic U.S. law if

Let's not forget: Aliyun OS is an admitted illegal closed-source Linux fork (And likely an Android ripoff). Perhaps China should comply with basic U.S. law if they want to sell things here.

ari_elle 14y ago
The point is that you can't judge a company solely on where they are from and that simply because of the company's origin to not only state concern, but to actually completely ruin their reputation by issuing serious concerns about possible spying activities, before having analyzed the products in suspicion, is just wrong. That is btw exactly what you are doing. Aliyun OS is illegal, so Huawei has to suffer? This is at least what is the logic i draw from your statement in connection with the article Note: And after having destroyed part of their reputation in the US and having analyzed their products, the official conclusion was that there were security risks found, but no possible spying or anything.
- tuananh 14y ago
  I guess at some points I can judge a company based on where it's from, especially with the political system in China.
EwanToo 14y ago
Has that got anything to do with Huawei? As far as I know, that was developed by Alibaba? Or are you just complaining about Chinese companies in general?
edoloughlin 14y ago
> Perhaps China should comply with basic U.S. law if they want to sell things here. You'd better hope they don't start with labour law or you might not be able to afford to buy any of their stuff.
- gbaygon 14y ago
  I hope you are being ironic.
Zigurd 14y ago
Aliyun is derived from the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). In intent and execution, it is much the same as OPhone, which is another Android-derived OS used in China. Neither one violates licensing terms for AOSP. There are many devices that make use of AOSP for a wide range of purposes, from the well-known Amazon Kindle, which competes with Android, to in-vehicle systems you might never know run AOSP. If you look at the Open Handset Alliance membership, you will find several that either sell OPhone devices, or develop and integrate OPhone system software. And yet Google objects to none of that. Curious, no?

Let's not forget: Aliyun OS is an admitted illegal closed-source Linux fork (And likely an Android ripoff). Perhaps China should comply with basic U.S. law if they want to sell things here.

ari_elle 14y ago

The point is that you can't judge a company solely on where they are from and that simply because of the company's origin to not only state concern, but to actually completely ruin their reputation by issuing serious concerns about possible spying activities, before having analyzed the products in suspicion, is just wrong. That is btw exactly what you are doing. Aliyun OS is illegal, so Huawei has to suffer? This is at least what is the logic i draw from your statement in connection with the article Note: And after having destroyed part of their reputation in the US and having analyzed their products, the official conclusion was that there were security risks found, but no possible spying or anything.

tuananh 14y ago
I guess at some points I can judge a company based on where it's from, especially with the political system in China.

EwanToo 14y ago

Has that got anything to do with Huawei? As far as I know, that was developed by Alibaba? Or are you just complaining about Chinese companies in general?

edoloughlin 14y ago

> Perhaps China should comply with basic U.S. law if they want to sell things here. You'd better hope they don't start with labour law or you might not be able to afford to buy any of their stuff.

gbaygon 14y ago
I hope you are being ironic.

Zigurd 14y ago

Aliyun is derived from the Android Open Source Project (AOSP). In intent and execution, it is much the same as OPhone, which is another Android-derived OS used in China. Neither one violates licensing terms for AOSP. There are many devices that make use of AOSP for a wide range of purposes, from the well-known Amazon Kindle, which competes with Android, to in-vehicle systems you might never know run AOSP. If you look at the Open Handset Alliance membership, you will find several that either sell OPhone devices, or develop and integrate OPhone system software. And yet Google objects to none of that. Curious, no?