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Gmail (possibly Hotmail) put a little lock icon next to DKIM authenticated email from some senders, such as eBay & PayPal and outright reject unauthenticated em
by Erwin 14y ago
Gmail (possibly Hotmail) put a little lock icon next to DKIM authenticated email from some senders, such as eBay & PayPal and outright reject unauthenticated emails from such domains. They've flaunted this feature in the past
So if an authenticated PayPal email pops up in your Gmail inbox saying you must do this and that to unlock your account, you may be more likely to do so due to the legitimacy of DKIM.
- tptacek 14y agoThe reality is that people will act on "Paypal" mail that comes from "Payapal.ng". Let's not pretend that DKIM has much to do with that decision. I agree, though, that the little lock in the Gmail UI is misleading.
- borski 14y agoThat UI affordance is actually incredibly frustrating for us, because we get that question a lot. Tons of people get confused by it.
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- downandout 14y agoJust register serverX-paypal.com (where x is a number) ftw. People in general are stupid. When asked what browser they use, the overwhelming majority respond by saying "Google". That says all that needs to be said about the general public.
- onthedole 14y agoQuite a sad view of humanity. I don't think people are stupid, I think they just don't care and shouldn't care about the browser. It's a tool used to get access to the information they need. I am reading HN on chrome, but unless I go looking for what browser I use, I wouldn't know.
- shinratdr 14y agoDecoupling the concept of "you don't intimately know what I have spent my entire life playing with" from "stupidity" seems to be really difficult for the tech crowd. Always sad. People willing to discount countless hours of expertise and knowledge because a user doesn't know what the name of their browser is. As if that means anything. For example, I really don't give a shit if my neurosurgeon is aware of what his browser is named. Nor would I dream of calling him stupid if he didn't. Chances are he knows leaps and bounds more about me on most topics, just not casual desktop computing. Likewise, discounting someone entirely because they're uncomfortable with or uninterested in computers is one of the most ridiculous, ignorant, and self-absorbed things you can do.
- ithcy2 14y agoThis is about maturity and empathy, and it's certainly not exclusive to the tech crowd. [Insert half-baked pseudo-psychiatric idea about the link between tech people and empathy and Asperger's and so forth]
- 001sky 14y agoThis is a useful consideration. It Appears to be an affliction of many (if not all "experts") of various stripes.
- drivebyacct2 14y agoI'm immediately tempted to apply it to politics. I won't, or at least certainly not here, but it's interesting to think about.
- DanBC 14y agoStupid is a harsh word. But it's short and simple and easy to understand. "Assume the user is stupid" isn't really being mean to users. It's just shorthand for "make everything as easy as possible. Sane defaults; great design; remove ambiguity; correct documentation; and so on."
- shinratdr 14y agoWhy does not being intimately familiar with the structure of a URL make someone stupid exactly?
- Evbn 14y ago"People" includes major websites like Amazon and banks that send official email from phishy domain names. I have mistakenly reported several Amazon security emails to their phishing team.
- __alexs 14y agoDoes that Padlock really have anything to do with DKIM or SPF? I thought it was just some magically hard coded thing for eBay and PayPal messages. My own DKIM signed messages certainly don't get it.