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I hate to be harsh but this mentality is part of the decline of this country (that is so evident with loss of manufacturing, open and free science and tech rob
by AIorNot 8mo ago
I hate to be harsh but this mentality is part of the decline of this country
(that is so evident with loss of manufacturing, open and free science and tech robber barons oligarchs that have taken over our national discourse)
Brookhaven was instrumental to Nobel winning discoveries and Stony Brook was a great science minded university
I’m not opposed to investing in AI but its not a zero sum game and we are not a country of data centers alone
- pfdietz 8mo agoAt some point physics entitlement has to end -- why not here? We can't just keep scaling up the size and cost of fundamental physics experiments. Eventually the cost becomes so large that platitudinous arguments for them don't work.
- micromacrofoot 8mo agoWe absolutely can, and I reckon we will... this is like a fraction of a percent of science funding which is a fraction of a percent of GDP, we spend more on maintaining warheads we can't use 10% of the US military budget for one year could build a 100km collider, RHIC is 4km
- pfdietz 8mo ago[flagged]
- micromacrofoot 8mo agoThe point is that there's so much bad spending that by comparison this is practically nothing to shake a stick at, and it produces actual science.
- pfdietz 8mo ago[flagged]
- SiempreViernes 8mo agoNo, you just asserted that you think existing arguments are invalid, then accused a person who disregarded your assertion of being "dogmatic".
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- Izikiel43 8mo agoIt's not a question of "can", it's a question of "should". No one knows what discoveries can happen and what the spillover from them could be in the future. In essence, it's a bet, a moonshot.
- mmooss 8mo agoHow can you look at current and recent US science and call it 'entitlement'? Have there been larger cuts anywhere in modern history?
- pfdietz 8mo ago[flagged]
- MSFT_Edging 8mo agoIt's not an entitlement if you're paying into the tax base. I'm somehow entitled to others receiving corporate bailouts, entitled to massive military waste spending, and entitled to seeing the "victims" of Havana Syndrome receiving free healthcare for life. Yet I am not entitled to this money going towards research for the greater good of humanity?
- Insanity 8mo agoNit: saying “this country” without context on where the parent poster is from or where you are from is kinda useless. From context, you probably mean USA. And I’d agree, however the US was always more technology minded than scientifically minded, and the parent poster lines up with that centuries old ideology. So I don’t think this is per se a new thing.
- davrosthedalek 8mo agoWhy past tense? BNL will host the EIC, and SBU is going full steam.
- DetroitThrow 8mo agoFYI the lab isn't shutting down. Glad you appreciate it's achievements though!
- mindslight 8mo agoYou were not nearly harsh enough.