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NSA detected phone call between foreign intelligence and person close to Trump

59 points by c420 8mo ago

bijant 8mo ago
So now we know what that was all about. Nothing. Obviously POTUS orders people in his circle to contact foreign leaders and foreign intel all the time. Whether Mossad or SVR there are people in the Trump orbit that talk to them and Trump approves of this in his unusual diplomacy style. Maybe they even think they have leverage and it's going on behind Trumps back. Now thanks to this Whistleblower they know that their contacts happened with knowledge of the WH. Seems like a legitimate discretionary decision by DNI Gabbard to disclose this only to the WH CoS and not along the usual lines. Particularly since the press apparently get briefed immediately by members of the congressional oversight committee.
- BoiledCabbage 8mo ago
  What? This is the most convoluted theory I think anyone could imagine. And it seems like it was only posted to distract from the most obvious: Someone in the President's circle is secretely communicating with (or compromised by) a foreign adversary's intelligence service. They don't want that story getting out as it would make them politically look terrible and so they went to suppress it. I mean Occam's razor here.
  - c420 8mo ago
    Also... The White House says she’s cleared, but: she was "exonerated" by Dennis Kirk, a Project 2025 co-founder she personally appointed to the Inspector General’s office just two weeks after a whistleblower blew the lid on her conduct.
    - burnt-resistor 8mo ago
      We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.
SilverElfin 8mo ago
Did they detect Peter Thiel meeting Russian officials repeatedly on Epstein island? Because that’s in the files. Many close to Trump are probably compromised foreign assets.
- belter 8mo ago
  I give you two hours before all this is flagged. HN on Trump, is taking the same attitude as Wernher von Braun. We just care about the Tech...Were the Rockets land is not our department...
burnt-resistor 8mo ago
There's so much Russian involvement and influence in the Trump administration, there's a dedicated Wikipedia page.[0] We already know Tulsi was part of a cult and believes lots of tinfoil conspiracy theories without any evidence and carries water for the Kremlin.[1] And, we already know Trump's first wife was likely a honeytrap.[2] It's still unclear whether Epstein gathered kompromat just to keep himself safe and investible, or if Mossad and/or the KGB utilized Epstein to compromise rich/famous/political figures too or they/either thought that aid would/did eventually lead to leverage they/either could/did wield.[3] The point above are symptoms of the oligarchical capture of a supermajority of the American political system (e.g., legislative, judicial, and executive) and mass media constitute the greatest threat to humanity (within and beyond CONUS borders), future engines of economic prosperity for the 99%, world tranquility, and the standard of life of average people. It's not even a partisan issue except to those who wish to be divided-and-conquered and bark at powerless people they believe are valid scapegoats. I wish this current crisis would end and we could return to arguing about direct memory access or ALE XT-compatible ISA cards. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates... 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-russian-connection-dni-trump-syria-b2692244.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... 2. https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russia https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russ... 3. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516349/Epsteins-sex-empire-KGB-honeytrap-Paedophile-financier-Putin-Russian-girls.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516349/Epsteins-s...
- mna_ 8mo ago
  Your allies tried to warn you guys more than a decade ago: >According to the report, GCHQ began passing information about contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives in late 2015. Agencies from Australia, Germany, Estonia, France, the Netherlands and Poland also passed on information until summer 2016. https://www.politico.eu/article/british-spies-discovered-trump-teams-alleged-links-to-russia-report/ https://www.politico.eu/article/british-spies-discovered-tru...
  - 8mo ago

59 points by c420 8mo ago

So now we know what that was all about. Nothing. Obviously POTUS orders people in his circle to contact foreign leaders and foreign intel all the time. Whether Mossad or SVR there are people in the Trump orbit that talk to them and Trump approves of this in his unusual diplomacy style. Maybe they even think they have leverage and it's going on behind Trumps back. Now thanks to this Whistleblower they know that their contacts happened with knowledge of the WH. Seems like a legitimate discretionary decision by DNI Gabbard to disclose this only to the WH CoS and not along the usual lines. Particularly since the press apparently get briefed immediately by members of the congressional oversight committee.

BoiledCabbage 8mo ago
What? This is the most convoluted theory I think anyone could imagine. And it seems like it was only posted to distract from the most obvious: Someone in the President's circle is secretely communicating with (or compromised by) a foreign adversary's intelligence service. They don't want that story getting out as it would make them politically look terrible and so they went to suppress it. I mean Occam's razor here.
- c420 8mo ago
  Also... The White House says she’s cleared, but: she was "exonerated" by Dennis Kirk, a Project 2025 co-founder she personally appointed to the Inspector General’s office just two weeks after a whistleblower blew the lid on her conduct.
  - burnt-resistor 8mo ago
    We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong.

SilverElfin 8mo ago

Did they detect Peter Thiel meeting Russian officials repeatedly on Epstein island? Because that’s in the files. Many close to Trump are probably compromised foreign assets.

belter 8mo ago
I give you two hours before all this is flagged. HN on Trump, is taking the same attitude as Wernher von Braun. We just care about the Tech...Were the Rockets land is not our department...

burnt-resistor 8mo ago

There's so much Russian involvement and influence in the Trump administration, there's a dedicated Wikipedia page.[0] We already know Tulsi was part of a cult and believes lots of tinfoil conspiracy theories without any evidence and carries water for the Kremlin.[1] And, we already know Trump's first wife was likely a honeytrap.[2] It's still unclear whether Epstein gathered kompromat just to keep himself safe and investible, or if Mossad and/or the KGB utilized Epstein to compromise rich/famous/political figures too or they/either thought that aid would/did eventually lead to leverage they/either could/did wield.[3] The point above are symptoms of the oligarchical capture of a supermajority of the American political system (e.g., legislative, judicial, and executive) and mass media constitute the greatest threat to humanity (within and beyond CONUS borders), future engines of economic prosperity for the 99%, world tranquility, and the standard of life of average people. It's not even a partisan issue except to those who wish to be divided-and-conquered and bark at powerless people they believe are valid scapegoats. I wish this current crisis would end and we could return to arguing about direct memory access or ALE XT-compatible ISA cards. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates... 1. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tulsi-gabbard-russian-connection-dni-trump-syria-b2692244.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic... 2. https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russia https://newrepublic.com/article/150646/young-trump-went-russ... 3. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516349/Epsteins-sex-empire-KGB-honeytrap-Paedophile-financier-Putin-Russian-girls.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15516349/Epsteins-s...

mna_ 8mo ago
Your allies tried to warn you guys more than a decade ago: >According to the report, GCHQ began passing information about contacts between Trump campaign officials and Russian operatives in late 2015. Agencies from Australia, Germany, Estonia, France, the Netherlands and Poland also passed on information until summer 2016. https://www.politico.eu/article/british-spies-discovered-trump-teams-alleged-links-to-russia-report/ https://www.politico.eu/article/british-spies-discovered-tru...
- 8mo ago