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>A significant number of developers and businesses are going to have an absolutely brutal rude awakening in the not too distant future. Correct. Those who wave

by nojito 8mo ago

>A significant number of developers and businesses are going to have an absolutely brutal rude awakening in the not too distant future. Correct. Those who wave away coding agents and refuse to engrain them into their workflows are going to be left behind in the dust.

htuibxtuhidb 8mo ago
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otabdeveloper4 8mo ago
Doubt on that. AI usually only wastes time and produces bugs. > bbut you're holding it wrong, just two more prompts and three more agents and it will be a real boy So, you invented an IDE, except more opaque and expensive? Welcome to the club.
- verdverm 8mo ago
  You both are likely incorrect, the answer lies in the middle rather than the extremes
  - redleggedfrog 8mo ago
    This is not just software development wisdom, it's life wisdom.
  - kaydub 8mo ago
    I think a lot of the people pro-llm are already in the middle. It's the naysays that are sticking to a strict definition of "vibe coding" as if it's random people typing in "make me $app but make no bugs" and getting a 100% working $app with no bugs. You have the gastown folks trying to do that, but nobody serious putting in good work with llm agents is "vibe coding" in that way.
    - otabdeveloper4 8mo ago
      > as if it's random people typing in "make me $app but make no bugs" and getting a 100% working $app with no bugs Yes, that's literally how LLMs are sold to management.
HighGoldstein 8mo ago
> Correct. Those who wave away AI and refuse to engrain it into their workflows are going to be left behind in the dust. Similar to those who waved away crypto and are now left behind in the dust, yes?
- pawelduda 8mo ago
  I think Bitcoin and major cryptos outperformed a lot of assets over the last decade, so you could say it left some people behind in the dust, yes
  - LunaSea 8mo ago
    Like being ratioed with a 50% price crash?
    - literalAardvark 8mo ago
      You mean just like META, NFLX, AMZN, TSLA, NVDA, CSCO, MSFT, GE, BAC ?
    - pawelduda 8mo ago
      I can tell you what a decade is but I'll have to leave the reading comprehension to you
- superze 8mo ago
  You forgot NFTs
  - FeteCommuniste 8mo ago
    Remember when the geniuses at Andreessen Horowitz were dumping hundreds of millions into the "metaverse?"
- literalAardvark 8mo ago
  Might not be the best counter example since everyone who has bought BTC before Jan 2024 is now in massive profit.

by nojito 8mo ago

htuibxtuhidb 8mo ago

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otabdeveloper4 8mo ago

Doubt on that. AI usually only wastes time and produces bugs. > bbut you're holding it wrong, just two more prompts and three more agents and it will be a real boy So, you invented an IDE, except more opaque and expensive? Welcome to the club.

verdverm 8mo ago
You both are likely incorrect, the answer lies in the middle rather than the extremes
- redleggedfrog 8mo ago
  This is not just software development wisdom, it's life wisdom.
- kaydub 8mo ago
  I think a lot of the people pro-llm are already in the middle. It's the naysays that are sticking to a strict definition of "vibe coding" as if it's random people typing in "make me $app but make no bugs" and getting a 100% working $app with no bugs. You have the gastown folks trying to do that, but nobody serious putting in good work with llm agents is "vibe coding" in that way.
  - otabdeveloper4 8mo ago
    > as if it's random people typing in "make me $app but make no bugs" and getting a 100% working $app with no bugs Yes, that's literally how LLMs are sold to management.

HighGoldstein 8mo ago

> Correct. Those who wave away AI and refuse to engrain it into their workflows are going to be left behind in the dust. Similar to those who waved away crypto and are now left behind in the dust, yes?

pawelduda 8mo ago
I think Bitcoin and major cryptos outperformed a lot of assets over the last decade, so you could say it left some people behind in the dust, yes
- LunaSea 8mo ago
  Like being ratioed with a 50% price crash?
  - literalAardvark 8mo ago
    You mean just like META, NFLX, AMZN, TSLA, NVDA, CSCO, MSFT, GE, BAC ?
  - pawelduda 8mo ago
    I can tell you what a decade is but I'll have to leave the reading comprehension to you
superze 8mo ago
You forgot NFTs
- FeteCommuniste 8mo ago
  Remember when the geniuses at Andreessen Horowitz were dumping hundreds of millions into the "metaverse?"
literalAardvark 8mo ago
Might not be the best counter example since everyone who has bought BTC before Jan 2024 is now in massive profit.