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Well… maybe making thinking machines mass produced is actually a more amazing project than the moon landing Just need to make sure the wealth is spread equally

• JKCalhoun 9mo ago
  > Well… maybe making thinking machines mass produced… Now if we could only make thinking machines. ;-) (Kind of surprised at all the negging of moon landings in this thread. Maybe I'm just of an older generation. At least one other post here points out all the spinoffs in regard to integrated circuits, etc. that came from the previous apace race.)
  • zug_zug 9mo ago
    To be clear I’m not negging the moon landing. I just think it may only Be humanity’s second greatest achievement But thinking machines, even if they only have an IQ of 70 right now, even if they may end humanity, are still a technological marvel on the order of splitting the atom
    • JKCalhoun 9mo ago
      I see your point then. Somehow this doesn't feel like the same kind of achievement though. We had the whole of the country pulling for the moon landing. Instead we have a handful of CEO's schmoozing Wall Street, raping the power grid, making hardware unobtainium for the rest of us for this "moon shot". We chose to go to the moon because it was hard. We choose to build AI because it will make corporate America rich? (Somehow doesn't have the same ring to it in Peoria.) And as we have already seen, the downsides of AI are extensive—they may turn out to outweigh the benefits? Other than cost, it's hard to find a downside to the moon landing.
      • binary132 8mo ago
        I think these people are either bots or paid shills. No other sane explanation for thinking gloried chatbots are better than the space race. It’s not in good faith. Mods do nothing and get mad if you spend too much energy pointing it out.
        • JKCalhoun 8mo ago
          I give at least this poster the benefit of the doubt that they're describing something akin to HAL from 2001: A Space Odyssey (which we clearly don't yet have). But I suspect they think we're on the cusp of that breakthrough and it will overshadow Apollo in the long term.
          • zug_zug 8mo ago
            No I'm not saying we're no the cusp of anything necessarily. I'm saying that the best current AI probably has an IQ of at least 60-70, and that is more impressive than getting a few people on the moon for a few hours. As far as I'm concerned we've made another thinking mind, it's not exactly creating life from nothing, but it's pretty close.
        • zug_zug 8mo ago
          "These people are bots?" Dude I've been on this site as long as you which is something about my account you could see... TBH It sounds like this is a tremendously emotional topic for you if it's absolutely inconceivable that somebody could think that anybody could have a different opinion... Also you're kinda a jerk ftr.
          • binary132 8mo ago
            If you can mistake this slop for a greater human achievement than Apollo without being paid to, you need to get your head checked. If that makes me an emotional jerk, then great.
• dyauspitr 9mo ago
  Spoiler alert: The wealth will not be spread equally until there is violence to demand it and that’s not going to happen because the “overlords” will make sure people have just enough to get by. To be fair, I don’t think distributing wealth equally even makes sense but we should definitely aim for distributing wealth in a way that most people can get through life with all their basic needs comfortably met.
• ratatatatata 9mo ago
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• mbgerring 9mo ago
  The wealth will not be spread equally. The way we’re building all of this infrastructure is designed to prevent that.
• bigstrat2003 9mo ago
  Considering that we are not making thinking machines, the AI push doesn't really compare favorably.
• estimator7292 9mo ago
  This may genuinely be one of the most deaf and naïve take I've ever seen on this website. Good job!