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Great, but why on GitHub? That doesn't seem very souverain to me
by forty 8mo ago
Great, but why on GitHub? That doesn't seem very souverain to me
- progx 8mo agoI wait for frenchhub, in french only, no english translation, nothing. Typical french. Greetings from you EU neighbor.
- bee_rider 8mo agoA lot of the documentation in La Suite seems to be available in English.
- jodrellblank 8mo ago> frenchhub *Lieu de Rencontre Français Pour le Contrôle de Version
- Normal_gaussian 8mo agoThe project benefits from the visibilityband community of GitHub and GitHub is completely replaceable with European hosted or self-hostable options should something untoward happen.
- michelsedgh 8mo agoBut they still chose an American company, github, lol ironic
- nolroz 8mo agoIt's the code that's hosted on GitHub, not the documents. Easier to move, easier to negotiate a move. You get visibility and easy distribution until they feel the need to bail.
- seszett 8mo agoThere's nothing ironic, as since the GP said there is no risk associated with GitHub. Git fundamentally prevents vendor lock-in and tampering, and the project is open, so the US have no leverage and pose no threat at all here.
- michelsedgh 8mo agoits not about leverage or threat, same as the office products, the french owned their docs at the end of the day, i thought it was about sovereignty and using french alternatives?
- Normal_gaussian 8mo agoIf you have the docs, but not the means to (legally) read and edit them, do you really own them? When MS pulls services you are largely screwed. When GitHub pulls services its a few hours downtime and a new provider.
- michelsedgh 8mo ago[flagged]
- gorounditup 8mo agoYou’re reasoning with a troll who doesn’t care about reason. Save your brainpower.
- faust201 8mo agoWith that argument we are discussing this on...errr US - the organization that perhaps grew those companies. The word is not ironic it is pragmatic.
- SideburnsOfDoom 8mo ago> Yet they still participate in GitHub. Ironic! Lol. Literally the "gotcha" fool from the Matt Bors cartoon: https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/ https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/
- forty 8mo agoI think you and other responders are missing the point. Yes GitHub gives visibility to the project and is easily replaceable. But putting projects on GitHub gives visibility to GitHub and reenforces the network effect and Microsoft leadership, making it harder for European alternative to emerge.
- Normal_gaussian 8mo agoI'm sure they would use a European provider if it was only a minor inconvenience to them; but there is no EU-github nearly done and it doesn't make sense to hamstring this project waiting on it. If this project is successful it will help to justify funding more EU sovereign projects, which will likely include GitHub replacements.
- saubeidl 8mo agoCause that's where the traction is. The beauty of git is that it's inherently distributed, github is just a clone like any other.
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- Rexxar 8mo agoGit is distributed, the repository can be hosted concurrently at many places.
- tjwebbnorfolk 8mo agoand the primary place they chose is owned by Microsoft
- saubeidl 8mo agoI would strongly assume the primary place is on some French government server somewhere and this is just the public mirror.
- nacozarina 8mo agoUnderrated point: Bldg #1 needs to be sovereign hub for initiatives, for which OP is providing a first tenant…
- nickthesick 8mo agoNot sure that it’s relevant to switch git hosts is trivial. And everyone is already there
- LunaSea 8mo agoGitHub is using Git which was developed by Linus Thorvald, a Finish and thus EU citizen. That does not sound very sovereign by the US to me.
- halapro 8mo agoGitHub is literally Microsoft. US company with servers in the US. What you're talking about is the underlying technology.
- jraph 8mo agoThere's a huge difference between the origin of some open source software, where a service is hosted and where the company providing it is from. You can take some open source software made in some other country and use it or fork it no strings attached to its country of origin. No leader from that country can decide to abruptly cut you off your usage of the software because they feel like it.
- prmoustache 8mo agogiven git is decentralized, my guess is github is just a public mirror.
- SideburnsOfDoom 8mo agoOne step at a time. This is a long-term movement. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.