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This guy is the biggest phoney ever. He made his fortune from piracy. I'm all for freedom and justice but don't pretend you are some saint.

by rbn 14y ago

brador 14y ago
Isn't taking from the rich and giving to the poor a key activity of a saint? I may or may not agree with the guys views, or activities, but he has helped a lot of poor people consume a lot of media they would not otherwise have had access to.
- Jgrubb 14y ago
  With all respect, a) I don't think that truly poor people have the means to be spending their time "consuming media". That definitely falls at least close to "first world problem". b) Despite the RIAA, which is an organization that deserves every bit of the scorn it gets, piracy mainly hurts artists, writers, and other "content creators". Creatives like me and a lot of other people on here. The suits that the RIAA really represents have plenty of other means to feed themselves. I don't know how this guy made his money, but he ain't no saint.
  - nitrogen 14y ago
    With respect, I'm glad you're not the sole arbiter of who's poor enough to deserve sympathy.
  - drharris 14y ago
    This is an elitist view of the world. In what universe does a rich person deserve to consume media at greater rates than poor people? Or because they're poor, must they spend all 16 waking hours trying to work for food, no time to consume such media? Or because they're poor, they shouldn't be able to afford the arbitrarily-set prices of said media? Or because they're poor, we simply don't care about what they can do or not do?
    - pyre 14y ago
      I think parent's point was that 'truly poor' people don't have time to consume media because they are too busy working to keep their head above water. I don't necessarily agree with the idea that only people in this state of existence can be called 'poor.' I'd say that 'poor' is more general, and that those people are at the extreme end of the 'poor' spectrum.
      - Jgrubb 14y ago
        That was my point, thank you. My point was more that I don't know how you can call someone poor who can't afford to buy the album or the book or the movie, but can somehow afford the device that they can play it on. That doesn't sound like my idea of "poor", it sounds more like "I don't feel like parting with my $15 right now".
  - brador 14y ago
    Poor also includes the children of the poor. Who, in western society, are unable to earn much income irrespective of talent due to their age. The majority of pirates are poor adults, and children. Yes, the adults can work harder, better, but the children can't. Kim isn't a saint in my view, but let's not doubt how far and wide his mega site spread the free content net. There's a reason so many love the guy.
- wangarific 14y ago
  You're confusing a saint and fictional Robin Hood. You can't steal/take from someone just because they're rich.
- rbn 14y ago
  Kim is massive attention seeker. He wants to be a hero and lots of people think he is some kind of rogue warrior going against the man. The truth is that he is going to milk this to the very last cent for all of his product launches. You saw his house and his lifestyle, do you think the Pirate Bay guys live like that? Even before being released, he was saying the media companies are afraid of his new site MegaBox. Ridiculous... . He has a long history of criminal activities of all kinds, just look at his wiki page. He is literally "A Big Fat Phoney".

This guy is the biggest phoney ever. He made his fortune from piracy. I'm all for freedom and justice but don't pretend you are some saint.

by rbn 14y ago

This guy is the biggest phoney ever. He made his fortune from piracy. I'm all for freedom and justice but don't pretend you are some saint.

brador 14y ago

Isn't taking from the rich and giving to the poor a key activity of a saint? I may or may not agree with the guys views, or activities, but he has helped a lot of poor people consume a lot of media they would not otherwise have had access to.

Jgrubb 14y ago
With all respect, a) I don't think that truly poor people have the means to be spending their time "consuming media". That definitely falls at least close to "first world problem". b) Despite the RIAA, which is an organization that deserves every bit of the scorn it gets, piracy mainly hurts artists, writers, and other "content creators". Creatives like me and a lot of other people on here. The suits that the RIAA really represents have plenty of other means to feed themselves. I don't know how this guy made his money, but he ain't no saint.
- nitrogen 14y ago
  With respect, I'm glad you're not the sole arbiter of who's poor enough to deserve sympathy.
- drharris 14y ago
  This is an elitist view of the world. In what universe does a rich person deserve to consume media at greater rates than poor people? Or because they're poor, must they spend all 16 waking hours trying to work for food, no time to consume such media? Or because they're poor, they shouldn't be able to afford the arbitrarily-set prices of said media? Or because they're poor, we simply don't care about what they can do or not do?
  - pyre 14y ago
    I think parent's point was that 'truly poor' people don't have time to consume media because they are too busy working to keep their head above water. I don't necessarily agree with the idea that only people in this state of existence can be called 'poor.' I'd say that 'poor' is more general, and that those people are at the extreme end of the 'poor' spectrum.
    - Jgrubb 14y ago
      That was my point, thank you. My point was more that I don't know how you can call someone poor who can't afford to buy the album or the book or the movie, but can somehow afford the device that they can play it on. That doesn't sound like my idea of "poor", it sounds more like "I don't feel like parting with my $15 right now".
- brador 14y ago
  Poor also includes the children of the poor. Who, in western society, are unable to earn much income irrespective of talent due to their age. The majority of pirates are poor adults, and children. Yes, the adults can work harder, better, but the children can't. Kim isn't a saint in my view, but let's not doubt how far and wide his mega site spread the free content net. There's a reason so many love the guy.
wangarific 14y ago
You're confusing a saint and fictional Robin Hood. You can't steal/take from someone just because they're rich.
rbn 14y ago
Kim is massive attention seeker. He wants to be a hero and lots of people think he is some kind of rogue warrior going against the man. The truth is that he is going to milk this to the very last cent for all of his product launches. You saw his house and his lifestyle, do you think the Pirate Bay guys live like that? Even before being released, he was saying the media companies are afraid of his new site MegaBox. Ridiculous... . He has a long history of criminal activities of all kinds, just look at his wiki page. He is literally "A Big Fat Phoney".