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This is hogwash. It's incel and eugenic reasoning wrapped up all together. Not every smart person (or even most) are engineers, and of the ones that are they d

by malfist 9mo ago

This is hogwash. It's incel and eugenic reasoning wrapped up all together. Not every smart person (or even most) are engineers, and of the ones that are they don't all move to tech hubs, and the ones that do not all of them can't get laid. And I'll give you a great reason why it's hogwash, the "brilliant" engineers that can't get laid in Singapore are the same "brilliant" engineers that can't get laid in their home town

Forgeties79 9mo ago
It’s the same nonsense as people going “Idiocracy is a documentary.“ Of course none of them think they’re the idiots.
- NegativeK 9mo ago
  I was going to comment the same. Complaining about how there are too many dumb people is a trollish red flag I've learned to disengage from. Also, stop blaming your damn users.
9dev 9mo ago
…not to mention they are completely ignoring the existence of smart girls as well
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- raincole 9mo ago
  Higher education is strongly associated to lower fertility rates. Especially for women, but for men too. So no the argument doesn't ignore the existence of smart women. Smart women (and men) just far less likely to reproduce, statistically speaking.
  - 9dev 9mo ago
    > […] overflowing with smart guys. […] smart guys build […] he's the smartest guy […] local rich guy would start a business […] It’s pretty clear this entire crude theory is based on a thinking system that has little place for women in active positions. And if your immediate reaction to that is annoyance because it seems like an insignificant detail, maybe reflect on that for a moment.
    - newsclues 9mo ago
      Are you upset about biology or the logic that follows the reality of human biology?
      - 9dev 9mo ago
        What now, human biology dictates men lead and women bear children? I'm upset some people carry that pathetic incel narrative over to HN.
        newsclues 9mo ago
        I’m going to ignore the stupidity and point out the problem of time. If you spend your time educating yourself and working, you don’t have time to reproduce and raise children. Thus declining birth rates Reality isn’t an incentive narrative. Go research declining birth rates and female education attainment and you will find charts that make it clear
        9dev 9mo ago
        If your answer to that problem is less women should attain higher education and take care of raising children instead, we just fundamentally disagree. Women have an equal right to education and working as men do. The charts you refer to show an environment where the responsibility for care work is heavily skewed to the detriment of women. If men took up a bigger part of raising children, it would be easier for couples to do that. But the vast majority of men don't.
bm3719 9mo ago
We can blame the individual for the cost we've outsourced into him. When he collapses under that load, we can attribute it to personal shortcomings. Some people survive, even thrive, in the current environment, after all. We've coalesced a plurality of games into a single one, and in a sense, it works great. We have our smartphones, AI, online shopping, and targeted advertising. Notepad now has Copilot built right into it, after all. That wasn't going to happen by now if we took the human psyche as a given and built around that.
g8oz 9mo ago
>>It's incel and eugenic reasoning wrapped up all together. More like French post-structuralism.
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dauertewigkeit 9mo ago
I agree with you that STEM don't hold a monopoly on intelligence. > engineers that can't get laid in Singapore are the same "brilliant" engineers that can't get laid in their home town Maybe so, but not for the same reasons. Back in their home town, they cannot vibe with anyone because the few who might be compatible have long since left. In a STEM hotspot, they go to an event and meet compatible people, but it's 11 guys for every 3 girls, so unless they are top dog in that room, they aren't going to score.
- malfist 9mo ago
  And yet, the population of Singapore isn't 79% male.
  - dauertewigkeit 9mo ago
    IDK the dating scene in Singapore. I frankly didn't even know that Singapore was considered a tech hub. I was using it as a synonym for a tech hub because that is what I assumed the author was doing.
internet_points 9mo ago
> can't get laid huh, I thought it was talking about how expensive extra bedrooms are in big cities so people choose not to have (as many) kids there

by malfist 9mo ago

Forgeties79 9mo ago

It’s the same nonsense as people going “Idiocracy is a documentary.“ Of course none of them think they’re the idiots.

NegativeK 9mo ago
I was going to comment the same. Complaining about how there are too many dumb people is a trollish red flag I've learned to disengage from. Also, stop blaming your damn users.

9dev 9mo ago

…not to mention they are completely ignoring the existence of smart girls as well

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raincole 9mo ago
Higher education is strongly associated to lower fertility rates. Especially for women, but for men too. So no the argument doesn't ignore the existence of smart women. Smart women (and men) just far less likely to reproduce, statistically speaking.
- 9dev 9mo ago
  > […] overflowing with smart guys. […] smart guys build […] he's the smartest guy […] local rich guy would start a business […] It’s pretty clear this entire crude theory is based on a thinking system that has little place for women in active positions. And if your immediate reaction to that is annoyance because it seems like an insignificant detail, maybe reflect on that for a moment.
  - newsclues 9mo ago
    Are you upset about biology or the logic that follows the reality of human biology?
    - 9dev 9mo ago
      What now, human biology dictates men lead and women bear children? I'm upset some people carry that pathetic incel narrative over to HN.
      - newsclues 9mo ago
        I’m going to ignore the stupidity and point out the problem of time. If you spend your time educating yourself and working, you don’t have time to reproduce and raise children. Thus declining birth rates Reality isn’t an incentive narrative. Go research declining birth rates and female education attainment and you will find charts that make it clear
        9dev 9mo ago
        If your answer to that problem is less women should attain higher education and take care of raising children instead, we just fundamentally disagree. Women have an equal right to education and working as men do. The charts you refer to show an environment where the responsibility for care work is heavily skewed to the detriment of women. If men took up a bigger part of raising children, it would be easier for couples to do that. But the vast majority of men don't.

bm3719 9mo ago

We can blame the individual for the cost we've outsourced into him. When he collapses under that load, we can attribute it to personal shortcomings. Some people survive, even thrive, in the current environment, after all. We've coalesced a plurality of games into a single one, and in a sense, it works great. We have our smartphones, AI, online shopping, and targeted advertising. Notepad now has Copilot built right into it, after all. That wasn't going to happen by now if we took the human psyche as a given and built around that.

g8oz 9mo ago

>>It's incel and eugenic reasoning wrapped up all together. More like French post-structuralism.

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dauertewigkeit 9mo ago

I agree with you that STEM don't hold a monopoly on intelligence. > engineers that can't get laid in Singapore are the same "brilliant" engineers that can't get laid in their home town Maybe so, but not for the same reasons. Back in their home town, they cannot vibe with anyone because the few who might be compatible have long since left. In a STEM hotspot, they go to an event and meet compatible people, but it's 11 guys for every 3 girls, so unless they are top dog in that room, they aren't going to score.

malfist 9mo ago
And yet, the population of Singapore isn't 79% male.
- dauertewigkeit 9mo ago
  IDK the dating scene in Singapore. I frankly didn't even know that Singapore was considered a tech hub. I was using it as a synonym for a tech hub because that is what I assumed the author was doing.

internet_points 9mo ago

> can't get laid huh, I thought it was talking about how expensive extra bedrooms are in big cities so people choose not to have (as many) kids there