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The only reason he doesn't like copyright law is because it stands in the way of him living the life he wants. This guy absolutely disgusts me -- he doesn't gi

The only reason he doesn't like copyright law is because it stands in the way of him living the life he wants. This guy absolutely disgusts me -- he doesn't give a shit about free speech, he just wants to live in his enormous mansion and eat far too much food and drive expensive cars and show off his trophy wife.

mibbitier 14y ago
The case has big implications for any site that hosts user generated content. If users start using say github, to share movies, will the github founders be whisked away to jail and the site shut down without any due process?
- aw3c2 14y ago
  the difference is that everyone knows that Github is for free software whereas everyone knows that Megaupload was for copyright infringement.
  - vidarh 14y ago
    Gee, I'm happy "everyone knows" is a suitable replacement for due process. That will certainly streamline the legal system.
    - aes256 14y ago
      In all seriousness, the law enforcement agencies concerned may have stuffed up the process, but there was a solid case against Dotcom and his associates, and everyone did indeed know Megaupload was synonymous with copyright infringement.
  - klibertp 14y ago
    This is what "everybody knows": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M :P
neotek 14y ago
At the risk of crying "ad hominem", can you explain why his personal desires render his claims invalid?
negativity 14y ago
The only reason Hollywood loves copyright law is because it provides a way for all of them to live the life they want. These people absolutely disgust me -- they don't give a shit about their loyal fans, they just want to live in their enormous mansions and eat far too much food and drive expensive cars and show off their sham Hollywood tabloid marriages.
- Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
  Your enemy's enemy isn't necessarily your friend though. It's possible to have issues with them both.
  - cema 14y ago
    Not a friend but an ally.
    - Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
      I'd suggest that you need to work out whether you want an ally with that much baggage and that many enemies. People who are ideologically aligned to you you stand by, people who are co-incidentally aligned to you you get to choose. In the case of Kim dotcom I think I'd want to stand a long way away from the man - some of the current stuff may be trumped up but the older stuff seems pretty nailed on.
- xtracto 14y ago
  > eat far too much food and drive expensive It saddens me so much that news.ycombinator has lowered to this kind of comments. And the fact that they are up-voted show the problem of the eternal September.
jopt 14y ago
This attitude is very interesting. In my reading, you take offence that Kim Dotcom supports free speech only because it is in his personal interest. Similarly (I find), many shy away from defending The Pirate Bay as soon as their advertising revenue is mentioned. Is free speech only good insofar as it can be used as a tool to create an ethically prudent world? Does free speech lose its appeal if it's invoked by Kim Dotcom and not only by rms?
- aes256 14y ago
  More often than not people have a vested interest in advocating for free speech. In this case, that interest is obvious; Kim Dotcom is facing criminal charges for facilitating copyright infringement, and is trying to characterize the issue as one of free speech. He's trying to lump the Megaupload takedown alongside SOPA, PIPA, etc. to ride the wave of discontent that challenged those pieces of legislation. It's cynical and insincere.
  - jopt 14y ago
    Do you believe his points are invalid? If he were making valid points, would they count regardless of his vested interest?
    - aes256 14y ago
      I don't really see him making many points. In a sense, as a fan of free speech, I'd rather he didn't associate himself with the cause.
praptak 14y ago
But it is the copyright law that made MegaUpload necessary. If not for the copyright law, we'd just download stuff off each other's homepages for free, no reason to pay Kim or anyone else.
klibertp 14y ago
Last submitted story about him (Inside the mansion - and mind - of Kim Dotcom IIRC) seemed to imply that he is on a diet now... Just saying :)
cema 14y ago
he doesn't give a shit about free speech, he just wants to live in his enormous mansion and eat far too much food and drive expensive cars and show off his trophy wife And what on earth does not give him a right to do that?

mibbitier 14y ago

The case has big implications for any site that hosts user generated content. If users start using say github, to share movies, will the github founders be whisked away to jail and the site shut down without any due process?

aw3c2 14y ago
the difference is that everyone knows that Github is for free software whereas everyone knows that Megaupload was for copyright infringement.
- vidarh 14y ago
  Gee, I'm happy "everyone knows" is a suitable replacement for due process. That will certainly streamline the legal system.
  - aes256 14y ago
    In all seriousness, the law enforcement agencies concerned may have stuffed up the process, but there was a solid case against Dotcom and his associates, and everyone did indeed know Megaupload was synonymous with copyright infringement.
- klibertp 14y ago
  This is what "everybody knows": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M :P

neotek 14y ago

At the risk of crying "ad hominem", can you explain why his personal desires render his claims invalid?

negativity 14y ago

The only reason Hollywood loves copyright law is because it provides a way for all of them to live the life they want. These people absolutely disgust me -- they don't give a shit about their loyal fans, they just want to live in their enormous mansions and eat far too much food and drive expensive cars and show off their sham Hollywood tabloid marriages.

Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
Your enemy's enemy isn't necessarily your friend though. It's possible to have issues with them both.
- cema 14y ago
  Not a friend but an ally.
  - Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
    I'd suggest that you need to work out whether you want an ally with that much baggage and that many enemies. People who are ideologically aligned to you you stand by, people who are co-incidentally aligned to you you get to choose. In the case of Kim dotcom I think I'd want to stand a long way away from the man - some of the current stuff may be trumped up but the older stuff seems pretty nailed on.
xtracto 14y ago
> eat far too much food and drive expensive It saddens me so much that news.ycombinator has lowered to this kind of comments. And the fact that they are up-voted show the problem of the eternal September.

jopt 14y ago

This attitude is very interesting. In my reading, you take offence that Kim Dotcom supports free speech only because it is in his personal interest. Similarly (I find), many shy away from defending The Pirate Bay as soon as their advertising revenue is mentioned. Is free speech only good insofar as it can be used as a tool to create an ethically prudent world? Does free speech lose its appeal if it's invoked by Kim Dotcom and not only by rms?

aes256 14y ago
More often than not people have a vested interest in advocating for free speech. In this case, that interest is obvious; Kim Dotcom is facing criminal charges for facilitating copyright infringement, and is trying to characterize the issue as one of free speech. He's trying to lump the Megaupload takedown alongside SOPA, PIPA, etc. to ride the wave of discontent that challenged those pieces of legislation. It's cynical and insincere.
- jopt 14y ago
  Do you believe his points are invalid? If he were making valid points, would they count regardless of his vested interest?
  - aes256 14y ago
    I don't really see him making many points. In a sense, as a fan of free speech, I'd rather he didn't associate himself with the cause.

praptak 14y ago

But it is the copyright law that made MegaUpload necessary. If not for the copyright law, we'd just download stuff off each other's homepages for free, no reason to pay Kim or anyone else.

klibertp 14y ago

Last submitted story about him (Inside the mansion - and mind - of Kim Dotcom IIRC) seemed to imply that he is on a diet now... Just saying :)

cema 14y ago

he doesn't give a shit about free speech, he just wants to live in his enormous mansion and eat far too much food and drive expensive cars and show off his trophy wife And what on earth does not give him a right to do that?