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he didn't refuse it. MobileEye or whoever cut Tesla off because they were using the lidar sensors in a way he didn't approve. From there he got mad and said "no

he didn't refuse it. MobileEye or whoever cut Tesla off because they were using the lidar sensors in a way he didn't approve. From there he got mad and said "no more lidar!"

iknowstuff 8mo ago
False. Mobileye never used lidar. Lmao where do you all come up with this
- agildehaus 8mo ago
  https://www.mobileye.com/news/mobileye-to-end-internal-lidar-development/ https://www.mobileye.com/news/mobileye-to-end-internal-lidar... Um, yes they did. No idea if it had any relation to Tesla though.
  - iknowstuff 8mo ago
    Did not
- nerdsniper 8mo ago
  I think Elon announced Tesla was ditching LIDAR in 2019.[0] This was before Mobileye offered LIDAR. Mobileye has used LIDAR from Luminar Technologies around 2022-2025. [1][2] They were developing their own lidar, but cancelled it. [3] They chose Innoviz Technologies as their LIDAR partner going forward for future product lines. [4] 0: https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/22/anyone-relying-on-lidar-is-doomed-elon-musk-says/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/22/anyone-relying-on-lidar-is... 1: https://static.mobileye.com/website/corporate/media/radar-lidar-fact-sheet.pdf https://static.mobileye.com/website/corporate/media/radar-li... 2: https://www.luminartech.com/updates/luminar-accelerates-commercial-momentum-with-mobileye-design-win https://www.luminartech.com/updates/luminar-accelerates-comm... 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvg9heQObyQ&t=48s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvg9heQObyQ&t=48s 4: https://ir.innoviz.tech/news-events/press-releases/detail/135/mobileye-to-use-innoviz-lidars-for-its-mobileye-drive-av https://ir.innoviz.tech/news-events/press-releases/detail/13...
  - iknowstuff 8mo ago
    Never with the product used by Tesla early on.
  - Fricken 8mo ago
    The original Mobileye EyeQ3 devices that Tesla began installing in their cars in 2013 had only a single forward facing camera. They were very simple devices, only intended to be used for lane keeping. Tesla hacked the devices and pushed them beyond their safe design constraints. Then that guy got decapitated when his Model S drove under a semi-truck that was crossing the highway and Mobileye terminated the contract. Weirdly, the same fatal edge case occurred 2 more times at least on Tesla's newer hardware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashes#:~:text=There%20have%20been%20multiple%20fatal,instance%2C%20the%20motorcyclist%20was%20killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashe...
    - nerdsniper 8mo ago
      Thank you!
    - iknowstuff 8mo ago
      They had radar too. No such incidents since going camera only fyi, even on the old autopilot product
- iamtheworstdev 8mo ago
  It's been a decade and it's hard to keep up with all of the drama and ego. It was the EyeQ3 vision system. It used cameras, radar, and ultrasonic sensors and Tesla was accessing them directly. MobileEye cut them off and Elon put his foot down and said "fine we'll just use crappy webcams and be fine."
semiquaver 8mo ago
Assuming what you say is true, are they the only LIDAR vendor?

he didn't refuse it. MobileEye or whoever cut Tesla off because they were using the lidar sensors in a way he didn't approve. From there he got mad and said "no more lidar!"

iknowstuff 8mo ago

False. Mobileye never used lidar. Lmao where do you all come up with this

agildehaus 8mo ago
https://www.mobileye.com/news/mobileye-to-end-internal-lidar-development/ https://www.mobileye.com/news/mobileye-to-end-internal-lidar... Um, yes they did. No idea if it had any relation to Tesla though.
- iknowstuff 8mo ago
  Did not
nerdsniper 8mo ago
I think Elon announced Tesla was ditching LIDAR in 2019.[0] This was before Mobileye offered LIDAR. Mobileye has used LIDAR from Luminar Technologies around 2022-2025. [1][2] They were developing their own lidar, but cancelled it. [3] They chose Innoviz Technologies as their LIDAR partner going forward for future product lines. [4] 0: https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/22/anyone-relying-on-lidar-is-doomed-elon-musk-says/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/04/22/anyone-relying-on-lidar-is... 1: https://static.mobileye.com/website/corporate/media/radar-lidar-fact-sheet.pdf https://static.mobileye.com/website/corporate/media/radar-li... 2: https://www.luminartech.com/updates/luminar-accelerates-commercial-momentum-with-mobileye-design-win https://www.luminartech.com/updates/luminar-accelerates-comm... 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvg9heQObyQ&t=48s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvg9heQObyQ&t=48s 4: https://ir.innoviz.tech/news-events/press-releases/detail/135/mobileye-to-use-innoviz-lidars-for-its-mobileye-drive-av https://ir.innoviz.tech/news-events/press-releases/detail/13...
- iknowstuff 8mo ago
  Never with the product used by Tesla early on.
- Fricken 8mo ago
  The original Mobileye EyeQ3 devices that Tesla began installing in their cars in 2013 had only a single forward facing camera. They were very simple devices, only intended to be used for lane keeping. Tesla hacked the devices and pushed them beyond their safe design constraints. Then that guy got decapitated when his Model S drove under a semi-truck that was crossing the highway and Mobileye terminated the contract. Weirdly, the same fatal edge case occurred 2 more times at least on Tesla's newer hardware. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashes#:~:text=There%20have%20been%20multiple%20fatal,instance%2C%20the%20motorcyclist%20was%20killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_Autopilot_crashe...
  - nerdsniper 8mo ago
    Thank you!
  - iknowstuff 8mo ago
    They had radar too. No such incidents since going camera only fyi, even on the old autopilot product
iamtheworstdev 8mo ago
It's been a decade and it's hard to keep up with all of the drama and ego. It was the EyeQ3 vision system. It used cameras, radar, and ultrasonic sensors and Tesla was accessing them directly. MobileEye cut them off and Elon put his foot down and said "fine we'll just use crappy webcams and be fine."

semiquaver 8mo ago

Assuming what you say is true, are they the only LIDAR vendor?