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> They will sometimes organize recruitment very openly, using the same channels you use for recruiting at any other time: open Facebook groups, Reddit threads,

> They will sometimes organize recruitment very openly, using the same channels you use for recruiting at any other time: open Facebook groups, Reddit threads, and similar. They will film TikTok videos flashing their ill-gotten gains, and explaining steps in order for how you, too, can get paid. > As a fraud investigator, you are allowed and encouraged to read Facebook at work. I tend to believe this, but it would be a lot more compelling with links to a case where Facebook/TikTok posts were useful evidence.

margalabargala 8mo ago
There are tons of these out there. In late 2024 there was the whole "Infinite money glitch" tiktok trend that was just check fraud. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzp7y8e7vo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzp7y8e7vo
- hyperpape 8mo ago
  Good example, though my impression was that was a quasi-viral TikTok trend that caught up random fools, not organized fraud?
  - mananaysiempre 8mo ago
    Is that contradictory? Seems like organized fraud would need a supply of random fools, and a viral trend, if you can manage one, isn’t a bad way to get that.
    - wredcoll 8mo ago
      You need a central actor who is benefitting from all the fools
    - hyperpape 8mo ago
      Organized fraud preys on disorganized fools, but this fraud didn't require or benefit from organization. You could just go do it on your own, and pocket the money until you got a visit from the cops.
  - wredcoll 8mo ago
    Yeah, I fail to see the organization.
- spbaar 8mo ago
  This is a poor example though, because I don't think anyone got away with it? And it was viral, but not organized.
danielvf 8mo ago
Here's a rap video, the entirety of which bragging about fraud against the government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ck7hTsug8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ck7hTsug8 "I just been swipin' for EDD Go to the bank, get a stack at least This ** here better than sellin' Ps I made some racks that I couldn't believe Ten cards, that's two-hunnid large" (For context, "EDD" is California’s Employment Development Department.)
- hyperpape 8mo ago
  With Google I can find out that he was prosecuted after his video came out. I'll count it. https://abc7.com/post/nuke-bizzle-rapper-edd-fraud/12024561/ https://abc7.com/post/nuke-bizzle-rapper-edd-fraud/12024561/
- Natsu 8mo ago
  It's interesting to note that some states restrict the use of rap music lyrics as evidence: https://legalclarity.org/using-rap-lyrics-as-evidence-in-criminal-trials/ https://legalclarity.org/using-rap-lyrics-as-evidence-in-cri...
  - krackers 8mo ago
    Very related Key & Peele sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs
- _neil 8mo ago
  Much better bangers about fraud: Dead Prez - Hell yeah: https://youtu.be/kGjSq4HqP9Y?si=_z6jb0Vfo7_PiITQ&t=82 https://youtu.be/kGjSq4HqP9Y?si=_z6jb0Vfo7_PiITQ&t=82 Maxo Kream - 5200: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kC9j6Zp-kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kC9j6Zp-kg Maxo was actually arrested for racketeering, though not due to this song specifically (I don't think).

margalabargala 8mo ago

There are tons of these out there. In late 2024 there was the whole "Infinite money glitch" tiktok trend that was just check fraud. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzp7y8e7vo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gzp7y8e7vo

hyperpape 8mo ago
Good example, though my impression was that was a quasi-viral TikTok trend that caught up random fools, not organized fraud?
- mananaysiempre 8mo ago
  Is that contradictory? Seems like organized fraud would need a supply of random fools, and a viral trend, if you can manage one, isn’t a bad way to get that.
  - wredcoll 8mo ago
    You need a central actor who is benefitting from all the fools
  - hyperpape 8mo ago
    Organized fraud preys on disorganized fools, but this fraud didn't require or benefit from organization. You could just go do it on your own, and pocket the money until you got a visit from the cops.
- wredcoll 8mo ago
  Yeah, I fail to see the organization.
spbaar 8mo ago
This is a poor example though, because I don't think anyone got away with it? And it was viral, but not organized.

danielvf 8mo ago

Here's a rap video, the entirety of which bragging about fraud against the government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ck7hTsug8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ck7hTsug8 "I just been swipin' for EDD Go to the bank, get a stack at least This ** here better than sellin' Ps I made some racks that I couldn't believe Ten cards, that's two-hunnid large" (For context, "EDD" is California’s Employment Development Department.)

hyperpape 8mo ago
With Google I can find out that he was prosecuted after his video came out. I'll count it. https://abc7.com/post/nuke-bizzle-rapper-edd-fraud/12024561/ https://abc7.com/post/nuke-bizzle-rapper-edd-fraud/12024561/
Natsu 8mo ago
It's interesting to note that some states restrict the use of rap music lyrics as evidence: https://legalclarity.org/using-rap-lyrics-as-evidence-in-criminal-trials/ https://legalclarity.org/using-rap-lyrics-as-evidence-in-cri...
- krackers 8mo ago
  Very related Key & Peele sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14WE3A0PwVs
_neil 8mo ago
Much better bangers about fraud: Dead Prez - Hell yeah: https://youtu.be/kGjSq4HqP9Y?si=_z6jb0Vfo7_PiITQ&t=82 https://youtu.be/kGjSq4HqP9Y?si=_z6jb0Vfo7_PiITQ&t=82 Maxo Kream - 5200: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kC9j6Zp-kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kC9j6Zp-kg Maxo was actually arrested for racketeering, though not due to this song specifically (I don't think).