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> Punching people who think you and your friends should be killed just for existing is a form of self-defense. This is such an incredibly radicalized and detac

by seneca 8mo ago

> Punching people who think you and your friends should be killed just for existing is a form of self-defense. This is such an incredibly radicalized and detached from reality statement. It's genuinely scary that there are people who think this way.

jazzypants 8mo ago
The real question is where do you draw the line with these ideologies? I don't think anyone deserves violence just for thinking the wrong things, but we're currently seeing the result of when those thoughts inevitably turn into actions. It doesn't seem like America ended up on the right side of the paradox of tolerance, so I'm curious how you think we could have avoided our current fascist leadership?
- seneca 8mo ago
  > I'm curious how you think we could have avoided our current fascist leadership? "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
  - direwolf20 8mo ago
    ???
    - seneca 8mo ago
      That's the classic example of a loaded question.
      - direwolf20 8mo ago
        How is it relevant to the context?
  - deleted 8mo ago
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  - jazzypants 8mo ago
    What would people like Trump, Noem, and Miller have to do differently for you to think that they are fascists? This is a genuine question. I want to understand how you view the world.
etchalon 8mo ago
Yeah, it is terrifying there are people who think other people deserve to be killed just for existing and yet, behold, the world is what it is.
jmye 8mo ago
You vote for my friends to be directly physically harmed, and you think it’s scary that some people respond to your violence with their own? You’re not “better” because you vote for political violence, my man, though I get that brings up conflicting feelings for you. It’s actually weird how often people try to pretend that their shitty actions (vis-a-vis making sure Grok can create CSAM, or that Facebook can more effectively give teenage girls depression) are morally neutral because they’re second order effects. You’re still a pretty shitty human being if you directly enable it, even if you’re not the sole cause. Some of y’all need to stop sniffing your own farts (or Elon’s/Thiel’s/etc.) and learn that.
AngryData 8mo ago
I find it genuinely scary that you have a serious problem with people punching eugenicists and hardcore authoritarians.

by seneca 8mo ago

jazzypants 8mo ago

The real question is where do you draw the line with these ideologies? I don't think anyone deserves violence just for thinking the wrong things, but we're currently seeing the result of when those thoughts inevitably turn into actions. It doesn't seem like America ended up on the right side of the paradox of tolerance, so I'm curious how you think we could have avoided our current fascist leadership?

seneca 8mo ago
> I'm curious how you think we could have avoided our current fascist leadership? "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
- direwolf20 8mo ago
  ???
  - seneca 8mo ago
    That's the classic example of a loaded question.
    - direwolf20 8mo ago
      How is it relevant to the context?
- deleted 8mo ago
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- jazzypants 8mo ago
  What would people like Trump, Noem, and Miller have to do differently for you to think that they are fascists? This is a genuine question. I want to understand how you view the world.

etchalon 8mo ago

Yeah, it is terrifying there are people who think other people deserve to be killed just for existing and yet, behold, the world is what it is.

jmye 8mo ago

You vote for my friends to be directly physically harmed, and you think it’s scary that some people respond to your violence with their own? You’re not “better” because you vote for political violence, my man, though I get that brings up conflicting feelings for you. It’s actually weird how often people try to pretend that their shitty actions (vis-a-vis making sure Grok can create CSAM, or that Facebook can more effectively give teenage girls depression) are morally neutral because they’re second order effects. You’re still a pretty shitty human being if you directly enable it, even if you’re not the sole cause. Some of y’all need to stop sniffing your own farts (or Elon’s/Thiel’s/etc.) and learn that.

AngryData 8mo ago

I find it genuinely scary that you have a serious problem with people punching eugenicists and hardcore authoritarians.