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> it’s safe to say that Pam Bondi’s DoJ did not put its best and brightest on this Or worse. She did.
by chrisjj 9mo ago
> it’s safe to say that Pam Bondi’s DoJ did not put its best and brightest on this
Or worse. She did.
- eek2121 9mo agoI mean, the internet is finding all her mistakes for her. She is actually doing alright with this. Crowdsource everything, fix the mistakes. lol.
- rcakebread 9mo agoSicko.
- chrisjj 9mo agoLet's see her sued for leaking PII. Here in Europe, she'd be mincemeat.
- ISL 9mo agoThe US administration is, at present, regularly violating the law and ignoring court orders. Indeed, these very releases are patently in violation of multiple federal laws -- they're simultaneously insufficiently-responsive to meet the requirements of the law requiring the release of the files and fall afoul of CSAM laws by being incompletely redacted. The challenge, as we're all experiencing together, is that the law is not inherently self-enforcing.
- typeofhuman 9mo agoCan you provide a couple examples of the laws they're violating?
- mschuster91 9mo agoThere's more than enough credible reports of CSAM in the Epstein Files dump - more than enough for me to not go and download even a single file of them myself, simply because German law does not care about why you are in the possession of CSAM, even if you took the picture yourself. The legal situation regarding CSAM is very strict no matter which country, and I better hope no one here will actually be dumb enough to provide actual links.
- direwolf20 9mo agoUse encryption > even if you took the picture yourself. I'd hope the punishment is more severe in that case!
- simonh 9mo agoIt's a tricky issue. In many countries it's not illegal and quite common for children to run around naked in public, during the summer on beaches for example, and so millions of people have holiday photos that are technically CSAM in their possession that they don't even know they have.
- direwolf20 9mo agoCSAM must be for sexual gratification usually. A medical anatomy textbook isn't CSAM.
- woooooo 9mo agoAnd now you're in court strenuously arguing that you weren't sexually gratified by the photo of your kid in the tub. Obviously most people are sensible most of the time but sometimes they are not.
- chrisjj 9mo agoMore than that. CSAM is evidence of abuse. Hence the "A". And nudity is not required.
- direwolf20 9mo agoCSAM has a meaning identical to child porn but doesn't make that meaning explicit. Drawn or generated depictions of child nudity can be considered CSAM in some jurisdictions.
- mschuster91 9mo ago
- ISL 9mo agoAs noted above: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-119publ38/pdf/PLAW-119publ38.pdf https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW-119publ38/pdf/PLAW-... : the Attorney General was to have produced the entirety of the Epstein files, with very narrowly-enumerated redactions, in December. She has not done so. Furthermore, there are numerous allegations that the documents that have been released contain CSAM, which (referencing the PDF above) may fall afoul of 18 U.S.C. 2252–2252A. In addition, one need only glance at the action in US courts to see egregious violations of the Constitution and valid court orders playing out daily. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26513988-trorder012826/ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26513988-trorder0128... https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230969/gov.uscourts.mnd.230969.29.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230...
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- typeofhuman 9mo agoAllegations aren't evidence. Has the Administration actually been found guilty of violating the law - if that is even possible.
- jcranmer 9mo agoYes, the Abrego Garcia and Öztürk detentions are two very newsworthy cases that have actually reached the point of a final judgement in the district courts, as opposed to "merely" preliminary injunctions against the government. (It's also worth noting that almost none of the government's appeals to their losses in preliminary injunctions have been on the merits as to whether or not their actions were legal, but rather on the grounds of "no one should be allowed to challenge our actions," which has also been a fairly losing argument for everybody except SCOTUS.)
- rockskon 9mo agoEvidence is evidence - of which there are enormous amounts of.
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- roywiggins 9mo agoHow about court orders? https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ice-violations-judge-statement-twin-cities-texas-immigration https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/ice-violations-judge-... > ICE has likely violated more court orders in January 2026 than some federal agencies have violated in their entire existence," Schiltz said, adding that he counted 96 court orders that ICE has violated in 74 cases. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/frustrations-from-judge-prosecutor-minnesota-boil-over-amid-trump-ice-surge/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/frustrations-from-judge-prosecu...
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- roywiggins 9mo ago"Allegations" from the exact judges whose orders aren't being enacted? The orders in question are pretty simple: release this guy. Don't take this guy out of state. It's pretty clear when they're not being followed. This guy is not a slouch: https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/patrick-schiltz-judge-minneapolis-ice-00750030 https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/patrick-schiltz-jud... https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230171/gov.uscourts.mnd.230171.10.0_2.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230... https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230171/gov.uscourts.mnd.230171.10.1_2.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230... Did you notice that one article I linked involved a DoJ lawyer admitting that she couldn't convince ICE to obey court orders that she was trying to transmit to them? That's beyond an allegation and into admission. How is that not evidence? More on these ignored court orders: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/28/ice-illegally-detaining-moving-minnesota-children-to-texas-faster-than-courts-can-respond https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/28/ice-illegally-detai...
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- mikeyouse 9mo agoThey illegally fired the IGs responsible for whistleblowers and fraud in every department; https://www.nycbar.org/press-releases/firings-of-inspectors-general-are-illegal-and-invalid/ https://www.nycbar.org/press-releases/firings-of-inspectors-... They illegally withheld funds (impoundment) from congressionally authorized/mandated expenditures and relied on pocket rescissions to defund programs they didn't like: https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/pocket-rescissions-are-illegal https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-budget/pocket-rescissi... They keep illegally appointing unqualified hacks as US attorney in defiance of the mandate they're approved by the Senate (Essayli, Habba, Halligan, Sarcone, Chattah) - judges have found at least five of the appointments illegal. As one example: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/28/judge-los-angeles-top-federal-prosecutor-illegally-appointed-00626804 https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/28/judge-los-angeles-t... They've repeatedly violated court orders to either return immigrant detainees or release them. "This is one of dozens of court orders with which respondents have failed to comply in recent weeks.": https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/patrick-schiltz-judge-minneapolis-trump https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/patrick-schiltz-judg... The EPA illegally convened a secret panel of climate deniers to issue a sham report in order to repeal the endangerment finding: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/30/climate/energy-department-climate-ruling.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/30/climate/energy-department... His targeting and shakedowns of Universities, law firms, and media companies is transparently illegal jawboning. Everything about the tariffs is obviously illegal which he confirms every time he opens his mouth since he's relying on 'national security' justifications to issue them without Congress and he keeps insisting they're punishment for some random perceived slight. His illegal firing of Federal workers without the notice required: https://www.npr.org/2025/09/25/nx-s1-5544317/federal-probationary-employees-firing-supreme-court https://www.npr.org/2025/09/25/nx-s1-5544317/federal-probati... Some sillier things like renaming the Kennedy Center -- the law that established it literally said that it couldn't be renamed without Congress -- so Trump firing everyone on the board and then appointing a bunch of his flunkees to vote for the name change doesn't cut it.. https://beatty.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/beatty.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/kennedycenter.pdf https://beatty.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/beatty.house.gov... It's a literal onslaught of illegality so I can't tell if you haven't read a news article since 2025 or if you're trolling.
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- TSiege 9mo agoThis would be funnier if it wasn’t child porn being unredacted by our government
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- queenkjuul 9mo agoBecome?
- nixosbestos 9mo agoEvery second of my political consciousness in the United States has been acutely tinged with the awareness that a bunch of people, across most of the political spectrum live in a constant state of denial. Denial of personal responsibility or culpability. Denial of cognitive dissonance. Denial of any distinct, self-informed morals. Denial of anything but a fear of others. Denial of anything that makes them fearful or uncomfortable or might invite confrontation. I've known from the second I started doing debate and FX/DX in highschool, well, let's just say I never thought that the majority of the 2FA-folks would be worth a damn when tyranny really came knocking. Fear of the other as a form of manipulation, and a distraction from class consciousness, has been their literal raison d'état since decades before I was born. I guess I was shocked that the President being a convicted rapist and documented child predator would be a bridge too far. But then we re-elected him. I believe it. We voted for this. We do nothing in the face of zero actual justice. This is exactly as good as we deserve. And best of all, it certainly doesn't stop here. This is what they chose to not redact. When we know they spent enormous tax-payer hundreds-of-people hours redacting the documents. I don't think it's even conspiratorial to say they left stuff in, so they could use it as justification for not releasing the other HALF of the files that haven't been released, even overly censored. We deserve this, and the much worse that our apathy has invited.
- hsuduebc2 9mo agoI will certainly feel less confident ridiculing conspiracy theories. I’d never believe Bill Gates would secretly slip antibiotics into his wife’s cocktail to treat an STI he got from a Russian prostitute on convicted pedophile estate. But here we are.
- rockskon 9mo agoYeah - they'll take these lessons learned for future batches of releases.
- dagi3d 9mo agothe issue is that mistakes can't be fixed in the sense once they are discovered, it doesn't matter if they are eventually redacted
- helterskelter 9mo agoI wonder if this could be intentional. If the datasets are contaminated with CSAM, anybody with a copy is liable to be arrested for possession. More likely it's just an oversight, but it could also be CYA for dragging their feet, like "you rushed us, and look at these victims you've retraumatized". There are software solutions to find nudity and they're quite effective.
- adaml_623 9mo agoOr it's distraction. Leave nudity in to use up attention that should be turning to analysis of what's been redacted. There's redaction to protect victims and there's redaction to protect specific co-conspirators in Epstein's spy ring
- SketchySeaBeast 9mo agoIt's hilariously revealing that it keeps redacting "Don't".
- chrisjj 9mo agoOdd indeed. The President's name contains no apostrophe :)
- lukifer 9mo agoThe emails are bizarrely sloppy with spelling and punctuation, perhaps many usages of "don't" ended up being typed as "don t", triggering an automated find-and-replace.
- SketchySeaBeast 9mo agoThe export itself is also sloppy, with characters like equal signs being added in weird places. Seems like they have it set to cast a wide and poorly set up net.
- winddude 9mo agothere are a few messaging conversations between FB agents early on that are kind of interesting. It would be very interesting to see them about the releases. I sometimes wonder if some was malicious compliance... ie, do a shitty job so the info get's out before it get re-redacted... we can hope...
- krupan 9mo agoI am in no way a republican apologist, but how many people were clamoring for the immediate releasing these documents, saying it "should be easy" and all that? Laws were passed ordering their sudden speedy disclosure. How would you have handled this?