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By your logic, if the NSDAP or the Bolsheviks named themselves "The Party of Peace and Love", you would have written > So they just said "These people are anti

By your logic, if the NSDAP or the Bolsheviks named themselves "The Party of Peace and Love", you would have written > So they just said "These people are anti-violence and anti-hate and this is a bad thing" (Frankly, our political situation is rife with insanity. I think the hotheads across the political spectrum need more nous and less thumos.)

wat10000 9mo ago
"Despite the name, The Party of Peace and Love is actually authoritarian and horribly repressive, as you can see from the millions of people they've killed." "Despite the name, Antifa is not just 'anti-fascist' but is actually _________" What goes in the blank?
- dsr_ 9mo ago
  __an identity claimed by people who are taking direct action against what they perceive as fascism, but currently more often the term is applied as an unthinking boogeyman by right wing authoritarians__
  - direwolf20 9mo ago
    The question was what antifa actually is not what right wing authoritarians say it is
    - dsr_ 9mo ago
      "an identity claimed by people who are taking direct action against what they perceive as fascism"
- otikik 9mo ago
  The blank is "the OTHER group". Like brown people, poor people, and (say it quickly so it doesn't get too noticed) women. And anyone from the OTHER group is the enemy. Stop thinking, you have arrived to the conclusion. Now, here are some news ... I mean, entertainment, to make you fear them more.
lbrito 9mo ago
Oh so Antifa is a single formal political party with card carrying members, a clear leadership structure and participation in mainstream public political life? I had no idea. Your analogy makes perfect sense. Where is the Antifa national headquarters?
- seattle_spring 9mo ago
  Kinda funny, Noem claimed to have arrested the "Leader of Antifa" in Portland a few days ago [1]. Turned out it was just some guy who lived near I.C.E. HQ, who let nearby protesters use his bathroom and clean out mace from their eyes. [1] https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/02/antifa-safehouse-leader-at-portland-ice-protests-singled-out-in-federal-records-report-says.html https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/02/antifa-safehouse...
  - lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
    The American political situation is best characterized by the image of two deformed, monstrous, and vicious imbeciles wrestling for power. These are creatures that belong in a zoo, not in the political forum.
- lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
  You should calm down and knock off the puerile snark. I see I have to spell things out for you. It is of no relevance whether Antifa is a formalized organization with formal membership. That's why it's called an ANALOGY. You seem to have confused analogy with univocity...which is precisely what analogy is not. The essential point, which you seem to have missed by a mile, is that labels are irrelevant. That "Antifa" comes from "anti-fascist" tells me very little, if anything, about what the movement is actually, empirically about: what its principles actually are, what political ends it seeks to achieve, what means it uses to achieve them, and so on. The fact that the movement is informal actually makes the actions more relevant in characterizing and judging the movement, regardless of the label it uses. In summary: the name given to a thing tells me nothing certain about the thing, and I would think this would be obvious to anyone.
cucumber3732842 9mo ago
>NSDAP or the Bolsheviks You don't even need to use examples that westerners find polarizing because they want to minimize or maximize their badness for political reasons. Africa is full of factions with grand names doing less than grand things that nobody here has any attachmennt to and do not cause complexities when comparing to.
- lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
  > You don't even need to use examples that westerners find polarizing Yes, but they are illustrative, because apparently, some people have a problem understanding that labels don't necessarily reflect the thing labeled. African factions are too foreign for most Westerners to appreciate the analogy. But if that helps someone understand what should be an obvious principle for any adult, then that's great.

wat10000 9mo ago

"Despite the name, The Party of Peace and Love is actually authoritarian and horribly repressive, as you can see from the millions of people they've killed." "Despite the name, Antifa is not just 'anti-fascist' but is actually _________" What goes in the blank?

dsr_ 9mo ago
__an identity claimed by people who are taking direct action against what they perceive as fascism, but currently more often the term is applied as an unthinking boogeyman by right wing authoritarians__
- direwolf20 9mo ago
  The question was what antifa actually is not what right wing authoritarians say it is
  - dsr_ 9mo ago
    "an identity claimed by people who are taking direct action against what they perceive as fascism"
otikik 9mo ago
The blank is "the OTHER group". Like brown people, poor people, and (say it quickly so it doesn't get too noticed) women. And anyone from the OTHER group is the enemy. Stop thinking, you have arrived to the conclusion. Now, here are some news ... I mean, entertainment, to make you fear them more.

lbrito 9mo ago

Oh so Antifa is a single formal political party with card carrying members, a clear leadership structure and participation in mainstream public political life? I had no idea. Your analogy makes perfect sense. Where is the Antifa national headquarters?

seattle_spring 9mo ago
Kinda funny, Noem claimed to have arrested the "Leader of Antifa" in Portland a few days ago [1]. Turned out it was just some guy who lived near I.C.E. HQ, who let nearby protesters use his bathroom and clean out mace from their eyes. [1] https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/02/antifa-safehouse-leader-at-portland-ice-protests-singled-out-in-federal-records-report-says.html https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2026/02/antifa-safehouse...
- lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
  The American political situation is best characterized by the image of two deformed, monstrous, and vicious imbeciles wrestling for power. These are creatures that belong in a zoo, not in the political forum.
lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
You should calm down and knock off the puerile snark. I see I have to spell things out for you. It is of no relevance whether Antifa is a formalized organization with formal membership. That's why it's called an ANALOGY. You seem to have confused analogy with univocity...which is precisely what analogy is not. The essential point, which you seem to have missed by a mile, is that labels are irrelevant. That "Antifa" comes from "anti-fascist" tells me very little, if anything, about what the movement is actually, empirically about: what its principles actually are, what political ends it seeks to achieve, what means it uses to achieve them, and so on. The fact that the movement is informal actually makes the actions more relevant in characterizing and judging the movement, regardless of the label it uses. In summary: the name given to a thing tells me nothing certain about the thing, and I would think this would be obvious to anyone.

cucumber3732842 9mo ago

>NSDAP or the Bolsheviks You don't even need to use examples that westerners find polarizing because they want to minimize or maximize their badness for political reasons. Africa is full of factions with grand names doing less than grand things that nobody here has any attachmennt to and do not cause complexities when comparing to.

lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
> You don't even need to use examples that westerners find polarizing Yes, but they are illustrative, because apparently, some people have a problem understanding that labels don't necessarily reflect the thing labeled. African factions are too foreign for most Westerners to appreciate the analogy. But if that helps someone understand what should be an obvious principle for any adult, then that's great.