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What Rust-based compiler is it plagiarising from?

• jcalvinowens 8mo ago
  Being written in rust is meaningless IMHO. There is absolutely zero inherent value to something being written in rust. Sometimes it's the right tool for the job, sometimes it isn't.
  • Philpax 8mo ago
    Please don't open a bridge to the Rust flamewar from the AI flamewar :-)
    • jcalvinowens 8mo ago
      Hahaha, fair enough, but I refuse to be shy about having this opinion :)
  • modeless 8mo ago
    It means that it's not directly copying existing C compiler code which is overwhelmingly not written in Rust. Even if your argument is that it is plagiarizing C code and doing a direct translation to Rust, that's a pretty interesting capability for it to have.
    • jcalvinowens 8mo ago
      Surely you agree that directly copying existing code into a different language is still plagiarism? I completely agree that "reweite this existing codebase into a new language" could be a very powerful tool. But the article is making much bolder claims. And the result was more limited in capability, so you can't even really claim they've achieved the rewrite skill yet.
    • seba_dos1 8mo ago
      Translating things between languages is probably one of the least interesting capabilities of LLMs - it's the one thing that they're pretty much meant to do well by design.
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• rubymamis 8mo ago
  There are many, here's a simple Google search: https://github.com/jyn514/saltwater https://github.com/jyn514/saltwater https://github.com/ClementTsang/rustcc https://github.com/ClementTsang/rustcc https://github.com/maekawatoshiki/rucc https://github.com/maekawatoshiki/rucc
  • Philpax 8mo ago
    Look at what those compilers are capable of compiling and to which targets, and compare it to what this compiler can do. Those are wonderful, and I have nothing but respect for them, but they aren't going to be compiling the Linux kernel.
    • rubymamis 8mo ago
      I just did a quick Google search only on GitHub, maybe there are better ones out there on the internet?
  • jsnell 8mo ago
    Did you actually look at these? > https://github.com/jyn514/saltwater https://github.com/jyn514/saltwater This is just a frontend. It uses Cranelift as the backend. It's missing some fairly basic language features like bitfields and variadic functions. And if I'm reading the documentation right, it requires all the source code to be in a single file... > https://github.com/ClementTsang/rustcc https://github.com/ClementTsang/rustcc This will compile basically no real-world code. The only supported data type is "int". > https://github.com/maekawatoshiki/rucc https://github.com/maekawatoshiki/rucc This is just a frontend. It uses LLVM as the backend.
  • chilipepperhott 8mo ago
    I found this one too: https://github.com/PhilippRados/wrecc https://github.com/PhilippRados/wrecc
    • Philpax 8mo ago
      A genuinely impressive effort, but alas, still missing some pretty critical features (const, floating point, bools, inline, anonymous structs in function args).
• lossolo 8mo ago
  Language doesn't really matter, it's not how things are mapped in the latent space. It only needs to know how to do it in one language.
  • HDThoreaun 8mo ago
    Ok you can say this about literally any compiler though. The authors of every compiler have intimate knowledge of other compilers, how is this different?
    • eggn00dles 8mo ago
      grace hopper spinning in her grave rn