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I disagree mostly with the parent and see in iPad mini few minuses for Apple; (1) 7.9" is slightly big to fit in pockets, (2) the non-retina display, and low re

I disagree mostly with the parent and see in iPad mini few minuses for Apple; (1) 7.9" is slightly big to fit in pockets, (2) the non-retina display, and low resolution is a step backwards, (3) The lower net profit per person, will drag down Apple margins.(Now having the Apple logo seeable in a cafe will cost you lower) (4) The loss of credibility in previous marketing claims of perfect size for fingers similar to the move from 3.5" to 4.0" (5) will canibalize the bigger iPad.

alexhawdon 14y ago
A tablet that fits in your pocket... is a phone. I honestly can't tell whether it's the 'new Apple product' shine, but I like the idea of a 7.9inch screen better than a 7inch.
mark_l_watson 14y ago
I think the 1024x768 screen resolution is probably a smart move: same as my old iPad 2, but smaller. Not retina display quality, but not adding a retina display allowed the iPad mini to be less than half the weight. That said, my Samsung Galaxy S III has 1280x720 resolution which makes it really nice for watching Netflix, TED videos, etc. And the Galaxy phone is very light weight. I have decided to not buy anymore Apple gear, but if not for that, if I was in the market for an iPad, I would rather have this smaller one that is less than half the weight. I see the mini competing more with 'super phones' like the Samsung Galaxy S III.
- niels_olson 14y ago
  > not adding a retina display allowed the iPad mini to be less than half the weight do the pixels weigh more? Seriously, would faster graphics weigh more? Or are you saying juicing the graphics would eat more battery, and therefore, it would weight more?
  - krrrh 14y ago
    Yes. The iPad 3 was significantly thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. It takes a larger battery to drive 4 times the pixels and maintain a 10 hour battery life.
    - Xion 14y ago
      It is 0.6mm thicker and 50g heavier. That's a 6% and 7% increase, respectively. I wouldn't really call it 'significant'.
  - sneak 14y ago
    The retina display is significantly less translucent, requiring a greater backlight for the same brightness on the front of the panel than a non-retina. The backlight being the lion's share of the battery consumption, this requires a significantly larger battery.
- wluu 14y ago
  Just wait a year and there will probably be a new iPad mini with a retina screen and updated processor. (iPad 3 was launched with the retina screen a year after the iPad 2. And 2 years after the iPad 1)
- StavrosK 14y ago
  If you were in the market for a small tablet, why would you not get a Nexus 7?
  - taligent 14y ago
    Because the tablet iOS ecosystem is far, far, far better than Androids. There are plenty of great iPad specific apps.
    - eropple 14y ago
      I've heard this a lot, but I honestly can't think of anything I use on my iPad that isn't built-in. I say more or less the same thing about my Nexus 7, aside from stuff like game emulators which are verboten on iOS (and, truthfully, I don't use them that often). Care to share?
      - bbbbbbbbb 14y ago
        The main reason I bought an iPad was... the musical apps (and the fact you can read ebooks with the Kindle app). The iPad is a revolution in the musical scene. Musical apps is something you won't get in the Android Eco-system basically because the OS itself sucks at it(although 4.1 seems to have improved a bit on that side). With this in mind(musical apps), I will always favor the iPad (mini) over an Android tablet.
        eropple 14y ago
        That's interesting. I found them largely useless, Lemur and TouchOSC aside (Android has TouchOSC support, though I do keep the iPad around if I want to use Lemur--haven't for a while though), but it's cool to see that they're useful for somebody.
        bbbbbbbbb 14y ago
        I like Auria, Amplitube,BeatMaker2,iMS20,iSequence,DM1,Animoog,Soundprism and the likes very much. with audiobus on its way, it is going to get even more interesting. Been using them for lives & recording demos (iPad+MiC+Jam). the iPad never crashes(not like Android that freezes a lot). Obviously you do no get a full pc stack and the quality is still not there so I resort to the Mac for more functionality/sound treatment but you can enjoy quite very much if you can't afford the thousands that cost Native Instruments softs or real hardware synths/drum machines.

alexhawdon 14y ago

A tablet that fits in your pocket... is a phone. I honestly can't tell whether it's the 'new Apple product' shine, but I like the idea of a 7.9inch screen better than a 7inch.

mark_l_watson 14y ago

I think the 1024x768 screen resolution is probably a smart move: same as my old iPad 2, but smaller. Not retina display quality, but not adding a retina display allowed the iPad mini to be less than half the weight. That said, my Samsung Galaxy S III has 1280x720 resolution which makes it really nice for watching Netflix, TED videos, etc. And the Galaxy phone is very light weight. I have decided to not buy anymore Apple gear, but if not for that, if I was in the market for an iPad, I would rather have this smaller one that is less than half the weight. I see the mini competing more with 'super phones' like the Samsung Galaxy S III.

niels_olson 14y ago
> not adding a retina display allowed the iPad mini to be less than half the weight do the pixels weigh more? Seriously, would faster graphics weigh more? Or are you saying juicing the graphics would eat more battery, and therefore, it would weight more?
- krrrh 14y ago
  Yes. The iPad 3 was significantly thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. It takes a larger battery to drive 4 times the pixels and maintain a 10 hour battery life.
  - Xion 14y ago
    It is 0.6mm thicker and 50g heavier. That's a 6% and 7% increase, respectively. I wouldn't really call it 'significant'.
- sneak 14y ago
  The retina display is significantly less translucent, requiring a greater backlight for the same brightness on the front of the panel than a non-retina. The backlight being the lion's share of the battery consumption, this requires a significantly larger battery.
wluu 14y ago
Just wait a year and there will probably be a new iPad mini with a retina screen and updated processor. (iPad 3 was launched with the retina screen a year after the iPad 2. And 2 years after the iPad 1)
StavrosK 14y ago
If you were in the market for a small tablet, why would you not get a Nexus 7?
- taligent 14y ago
  Because the tablet iOS ecosystem is far, far, far better than Androids. There are plenty of great iPad specific apps.
  - eropple 14y ago
    I've heard this a lot, but I honestly can't think of anything I use on my iPad that isn't built-in. I say more or less the same thing about my Nexus 7, aside from stuff like game emulators which are verboten on iOS (and, truthfully, I don't use them that often). Care to share?
    - bbbbbbbbb 14y ago
      The main reason I bought an iPad was... the musical apps (and the fact you can read ebooks with the Kindle app). The iPad is a revolution in the musical scene. Musical apps is something you won't get in the Android Eco-system basically because the OS itself sucks at it(although 4.1 seems to have improved a bit on that side). With this in mind(musical apps), I will always favor the iPad (mini) over an Android tablet.
      - eropple 14y ago
        That's interesting. I found them largely useless, Lemur and TouchOSC aside (Android has TouchOSC support, though I do keep the iPad around if I want to use Lemur--haven't for a while though), but it's cool to see that they're useful for somebody.
        bbbbbbbbb 14y ago
        I like Auria, Amplitube,BeatMaker2,iMS20,iSequence,DM1,Animoog,Soundprism and the likes very much. with audiobus on its way, it is going to get even more interesting. Been using them for lives & recording demos (iPad+MiC+Jam). the iPad never crashes(not like Android that freezes a lot). Obviously you do no get a full pc stack and the quality is still not there so I resort to the Mac for more functionality/sound treatment but you can enjoy quite very much if you can't afford the thousands that cost Native Instruments softs or real hardware synths/drum machines.