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I wish they’d just stop pretending to care about safety, other than a few researchers at the top they care about safety only as long as they aren’t losing groun

by cedws 8mo ago

I wish they’d just stop pretending to care about safety, other than a few researchers at the top they care about safety only as long as they aren’t losing ground to the competition. Game theory guarantees the AI labs will do what it takes to ensure survival. Only regulation can enforce the limits, self policing won’t work when money is involved.

thethimble 8mo ago
As long as China continues to blitz forward, regulation is a direct path to losing.
- pixl97 8mo ago
  You mean all paths are direct paths to losing.
- cedws 8mo ago
  Define "losing." Europe is prematurely regarded as having lost the AI race. And yet a large portion of Europe live higher quality lives compared to their American counterparts, live longer, and don't have to worry about an elected orange unleashing brutality on them.
  - thethimble 8mo ago
    If the world is built on AI infrastructure (models, compute, etc.) that is controlled by the CCP then the west has effectively lost. This may lead to better life outcomes, but if the west doesn't control the whole stack then they have lost their sovereignty. This is already playing out today as Europe is dependent on the US for critical tech infrastructure (cloud, mail, messaging, social media, AI, etc). There's no home grown European alternatives because Europe has failed to create an economic environment to assure its technical sovereignty.
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  - fakedang 8mo ago
    Europe has already lost the tech race - their cloud systems that their entire welfare states rely upon are all hosted on servers hosted by American private companies, which can turn them off with a flick of a switch if and when needed. When the welfare state, enabled by technology, falls apart, it won't take long for European society to fall apart. Except France maybe.
    - clows 8mo ago
      welfare state enabled by cloud services/technology? I'm not sure if you know less about europe or tech. > Except France maybe. sure
vovavili 8mo ago
The last thing I would want is for excessively neurotic bureaucrats to interfere with all the mind-blowing progress we've had in the last couple of years with LLM technology.
- iujasdkjfasf 8mo ago
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by cedws 8mo ago

thethimble 8mo ago

As long as China continues to blitz forward, regulation is a direct path to losing.

pixl97 8mo ago
You mean all paths are direct paths to losing.
cedws 8mo ago
Define "losing." Europe is prematurely regarded as having lost the AI race. And yet a large portion of Europe live higher quality lives compared to their American counterparts, live longer, and don't have to worry about an elected orange unleashing brutality on them.
- thethimble 8mo ago
  If the world is built on AI infrastructure (models, compute, etc.) that is controlled by the CCP then the west has effectively lost. This may lead to better life outcomes, but if the west doesn't control the whole stack then they have lost their sovereignty. This is already playing out today as Europe is dependent on the US for critical tech infrastructure (cloud, mail, messaging, social media, AI, etc). There's no home grown European alternatives because Europe has failed to create an economic environment to assure its technical sovereignty.
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- fakedang 8mo ago
  Europe has already lost the tech race - their cloud systems that their entire welfare states rely upon are all hosted on servers hosted by American private companies, which can turn them off with a flick of a switch if and when needed. When the welfare state, enabled by technology, falls apart, it won't take long for European society to fall apart. Except France maybe.
  - clows 8mo ago
    welfare state enabled by cloud services/technology? I'm not sure if you know less about europe or tech. > Except France maybe. sure

vovavili 8mo ago

The last thing I would want is for excessively neurotic bureaucrats to interfere with all the mind-blowing progress we've had in the last couple of years with LLM technology.

iujasdkjfasf 8mo ago
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