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Obviously, facts do not play a big role in the current government's world view.
by kleiba 9mo ago
Obviously, facts do not play a big role in the current government's world view.
- stinkbeetle 9mo agoTruly dark times when we can't even trust the CIA anymore.
- khat 9mo agoThe CIA was formed in 1947 and the first known controversy was in 1953. And has a whole list of controversies since then. From giving citizens LSD, wiretapping citizens, to supporting Central American cocaine distribution. And this is where you draw the line on trustworthiness? Lol
- ceejayoz 9mo agoYou and sarcasm should get better acquainted.
- MisterTea 9mo agoThat was a joke that violently wooshed over your head. You might need to see a doctor to check for whiplash.
- DetroitThrow 9mo agoWe have to draw the line somewhere
- butlike 9mo agoCIA-distributed LSD would be a weird trip
- vjvjvjvjghv 9mo agoI would love to get some of that.
- toyg 9mo agoThis is a good joke, but it's also true that the whole charade of trying to look "institutional" and "fact-based" was a pretty decent way to go about pursuing the US agenda. "Hey we are the good guys, we show you real numbers" was a good line to push, and it could often show up the opposition as cranks and liars. Nowadays, nobody even pretends to not be a liar, from any side. There is no debate that even attempts to look at the facts - it's vibes all the way down and fuck you if you don't agree, only money and guns matter. In the long run, this can't hold.
- seanw444 9mo ago> In the long run, this can't hold. It's always held, management just changes. Money and power are two fundamental constants to human nature.
- toyg 9mo agoSure, but assigning value to other things allows us to temper those brutal instincts. Otherwise we might as well live under military dictatorship.
- mangodrunk 9mo agoYour grievance is that we won’t have good cover to pursue our interests when they conflict with the sovereignty and security of others? You think it was good to lie and say that we’re the good guys while we inflict harm on others?
- toyg 9mo agoLooking like you are trying to pursue the general interest is how we all get things like international tribunals, supranational organizations where conflicts are discussed and sometimes resolved, coordination to raise health standards and address natural disasters, etc etc. If the price to pay for those activities is sneaking in the occasional spy, or being a bit overzealous when defending certain business interests, I think it's worth paying, yes. That order was not perfect, but the alternative is going back to the naked power struggles of the XIX century, which ended in global carneficine - and the next time it will be so much worse.
- mannanj 9mo agoThen don't watch "Everything is a Rich Man's Trick" that was what showed me a bit of the under dealings of how that organization was structured and created. Spoiler: The CIA was formed around rich people's interests and continue to represent them, not in fact, the American people. Harsh reality but helpful to know.
- moolcool 9mo agoLike Ken Jennings said about this: "you have wonder if the problem was 'world,' 'facts,' or 'books'"
- stronglikedan 9mo agoIronically, most people who think that also think the opposite of the previous administration.
- FrustratedMonky 9mo agoThere is one rule of thumb to tell them apart. If you happen across a random book burning, can you confidently assume which side they are voting for.