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This quote is gold: The cloud requires expertise in company-specific APIs and billing systems. A data center requires knowledge of Watts, bits, and FLOPs. I kn

This quote is gold: The cloud requires expertise in company-specific APIs and billing systems. A data center requires knowledge of Watts, bits, and FLOPs. I know which one I rather think about.

rudolph9 9mo ago
> Having your own data center is cool This company sounds more like a hobby interest than a business focused on solving genuine problems.
- BirAdam 9mo ago
  To me it sounds more like a return to vertical integration. This is becoming increasingly common as far as I can tell. There are benefits either direction, and I think that each company needs to evaluate the pros and cons themselves. Emotional pros/cons are something companies need to evaluate as employee morale can make or break a company. If the company is super technical in culture and they gain something intangible that is boosting the bottom line, having a datacenter as a "cool" factor is probably worth it.
- vovavili 9mo ago
  I'd argue that it is in the long-term interest of any genuinely innovative company to attract intellectually curious talent with some coolness factor.
- HanClinto 9mo ago
  It kinda' does, doesn't it? Re: the "hobby" part is where I agree with you the most. Where you say it's not solving genuine problems is where I differ the most. It really feels to me like Comma is staffed by people who recognize that they never stopped enjoying playing with Lego -- their bricks just grew up, and they realized they can: 1) solve real-world problems 2) not be jerks about it 3) get paid to do it Not everything has to be about optimizing for #3. I'm a happy paying customer of Comma.ai (Comma four, baby!) -- their product is awesome, extremely consumer-friendly, and I hope they can grow in their success!
  - adeebshihadeh 9mo ago
    comma four, baby!! glad you're enjoying it :)
- adeebshihadeh 9mo ago
  you can have fun while solving real problems. it might even be a requirement

This quote is gold: The cloud requires expertise in company-specific APIs and billing systems. A data center requires knowledge of Watts, bits, and FLOPs. I know which one I rather think about.

rudolph9 9mo ago

> Having your own data center is cool This company sounds more like a hobby interest than a business focused on solving genuine problems.

BirAdam 9mo ago
To me it sounds more like a return to vertical integration. This is becoming increasingly common as far as I can tell. There are benefits either direction, and I think that each company needs to evaluate the pros and cons themselves. Emotional pros/cons are something companies need to evaluate as employee morale can make or break a company. If the company is super technical in culture and they gain something intangible that is boosting the bottom line, having a datacenter as a "cool" factor is probably worth it.
vovavili 9mo ago
I'd argue that it is in the long-term interest of any genuinely innovative company to attract intellectually curious talent with some coolness factor.
HanClinto 9mo ago
It kinda' does, doesn't it? Re: the "hobby" part is where I agree with you the most. Where you say it's not solving genuine problems is where I differ the most. It really feels to me like Comma is staffed by people who recognize that they never stopped enjoying playing with Lego -- their bricks just grew up, and they realized they can: 1) solve real-world problems 2) not be jerks about it 3) get paid to do it Not everything has to be about optimizing for #3. I'm a happy paying customer of Comma.ai (Comma four, baby!) -- their product is awesome, extremely consumer-friendly, and I hope they can grow in their success!
- adeebshihadeh 9mo ago
  comma four, baby!! glad you're enjoying it :)
adeebshihadeh 9mo ago
you can have fun while solving real problems. it might even be a requirement