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if someone on the DevOps team knows Nix, option 3 becomes a lot cheaper time-wise! yeah, Nix flakes still need maintenance, especially on the `nixos-unstable` b

by bpavuk 8mo ago

if someone on the DevOps team knows Nix, option 3 becomes a lot cheaper time-wise! yeah, Nix flakes still need maintenance, especially on the `nixos-unstable` branch, but you get the quickest disaster recovery route possible! plus, infra flexibility removes random constraints that e.g. Cloudflare Workers have

adamcharnock 8mo ago
Indeed! We've yet to go down this route, but it's something we're thinking on. A friend and I have been talking about how to bring Nix-like constructs to Kubernetes as well, which has been interesting. (https://github.com/clotodex/kix https://github.com/clotodex/kix, very much in the "this is fun to think about" phase)
muvlon 8mo ago
Option 4 as well, that's how we do it at work and it's been great. However, it can't really be "someone on the team knows Nix", anyone working on Ops will need Nix skills in order to be effective.
- lstodd 8mo ago
  Why this fixation on Nix? You don't need Nix to run bare metal.
  - bpavuk 8mo ago
    Nix makes sure that everything is exactly as you declared, and that in case of [INSERT APOCALYPTIC EVENT], you'll be able to recover much faster
preisschild 8mo ago
I'm a NixOS fan, but been using Talos Linux on Hetzner nodes (using Cluster-API) to form a Kubernetes Cluster. Works great too!
aequitas 8mo ago
This is what we do, I gave a talk about our setup earlier this week at CfgMgmtCamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxkVVrN0mA&t=8457s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxkVVrN0mA&t=8457s
slyall 8mo ago
There are a bunch of ways to manage bare metal servers apart from Nix. People have been doing it for years. Kickstart, theforeman, maas, etc, [0]. Many to choose from according to your needs and layers you want them to manage. Reality is these days you just boot a basic image that runs containers [0] Longer list here: https://github.com/alexellis/awesome-baremetal https://github.com/alexellis/awesome-baremetal

by bpavuk 8mo ago

adamcharnock 8mo ago

Indeed! We've yet to go down this route, but it's something we're thinking on. A friend and I have been talking about how to bring Nix-like constructs to Kubernetes as well, which has been interesting. (https://github.com/clotodex/kix https://github.com/clotodex/kix, very much in the "this is fun to think about" phase)

muvlon 8mo ago

Option 4 as well, that's how we do it at work and it's been great. However, it can't really be "someone on the team knows Nix", anyone working on Ops will need Nix skills in order to be effective.

lstodd 8mo ago
Why this fixation on Nix? You don't need Nix to run bare metal.
- bpavuk 8mo ago
  Nix makes sure that everything is exactly as you declared, and that in case of [INSERT APOCALYPTIC EVENT], you'll be able to recover much faster

preisschild 8mo ago

I'm a NixOS fan, but been using Talos Linux on Hetzner nodes (using Cluster-API) to form a Kubernetes Cluster. Works great too!

aequitas 8mo ago

This is what we do, I gave a talk about our setup earlier this week at CfgMgmtCamp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxkVVrN0mA&t=8457s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBxkVVrN0mA&t=8457s

slyall 8mo ago

There are a bunch of ways to manage bare metal servers apart from Nix. People have been doing it for years. Kickstart, theforeman, maas, etc, [0]. Many to choose from according to your needs and layers you want them to manage. Reality is these days you just boot a basic image that runs containers [0] Longer list here: https://github.com/alexellis/awesome-baremetal https://github.com/alexellis/awesome-baremetal