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Valve's Steam Machine has been delayed, and the RAM crisis will impact pricing
- vga42 8mo ago[flagged]
- blell 8mo agoMaybe you should think about why a company like Valve could have never been founded in the EU instead.
- enricozb 8mo agoWhat about it is incompatible with the EU?
- newsclues 8mo agoAll sorts of content that EU bureaucrats find objectionable like the sex games
- wolvoleo 8mo agoYou know the big push against that comes from American credit card companies, right? Including the recent removal of games from steam. Here in Europe sex isn't nearly as big a taboo as in the US, though they do want age gating.
- pjmlp 8mo agoYou mean like showing a nipple on TV is some kind of hideous crime, while blowing heads off like watermelons is perfectly fine?
- Hikikomori 8mo agoAmericans thinking Europe is prudish is pretty funny.
- defrost 8mo agoIndeed. https://farm1.static.flickr.com/19/113272962_1a8e1d6a0e.jpg https://farm1.static.flickr.com/19/113272962_1a8e1d6a0e.jpg
- enricozb 8mo agoAs a counterexample, the BBC financed the show that this sketch was from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPBbFOiygo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuPBbFOiygo
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- jackvalentine 8mo agoCD Project Red and GOG, founded and headquartered in Poland?
- eloisant 8mo agoI guess the point is that they got this level of success (which GOG didn't reach) because they're based in US. And I tend to agree with that, there are some reason, including the fact that it's a huge country with a wealthy population that use loans and credit cards to buy even more that they can afford. That creates a strong domestic market that you can leverage before having to look at international sales. Nothing to do with the US government policies of course...
- yetihehe 8mo agoEpic was founded in US and didn't reach such success too. I think this is not because of US based, more like because of Gabe Newell.
- jackvalentine 8mo agoGood example. I’d want to look at the first-mover(ish) advantage Valve had and other differences in product timing/delivery before I concluded it was impossible to found a company like Valve in the EU.
- yetihehe 8mo agoI am interested in knowing why it's impossible. Only because of first mover advantage?
- jackvalentine 8mo agoI think you’re reading my post wrong. I’m not stating it’s impossible.
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- SSchick 8mo agoAre we defending billionaires again?
- preisschild 8mo agoGabe Newell? Yeah. He deserves it frankly.
- eloisant 8mo agoHe's a great guy, but nobody deserves to be a billionaire. He would do great even if he was "just" a multi-millionaire.
- preisschild 8mo agoI'd honestly much rather have him select where that money goes towards than many governments
- eloisant 8mo agoIn democracies money going to governments isn't sucked to some kind of vacuum. It's reinvested in infrastructure, social programs, investment programs, etc. The US would be better off if it had more money to invest in healthcare and education, and Gabe would still be fine living in a house worth a few millions instead of on a half billion yacht.
- preisschild 8mo agoI live in a democracy (central Europe) and too much is spent on subsidizing farmers and useless social programs.
- account42 8mo agoYou don't think food security is something a country should invest in? Sure, let's have everything we need to live be produced in China, what could possibly go wrong.
- wolvoleo 8mo agoI think this American exceptionalism is getting old. The country is a lot more capitalist and that stimulates certain industries, especially venture capitalism which is basically gambling with investor money. But a lot of the companies that came out of this like Google, Meta, Microsoft are also a big net negative in the world and causing societal decay with their attention-driving algorithms and hard business practices used to establish their monopolies. It's not surprising the more ethical business models come from the EU like GOG without its DRM. And valve isn't really one of the worst companies out there, but gog is a lot better and I always buy there if a game is available. Europe has its issues but look at the state America is in right now. A lot of all that hate is fuelled by people who have been drawing the short end of the capitalism stick for decades. And are now mobilised by the people making things worse for them.
- totetsu 8mo agoGabe has New Zealand residency, maybe he could move Valve there ;)
- dkdbejwi383 8mo agoLooking forward to the Steam Chully Bun
- ThePinion 8mo agoI sure do love these irrelevant and heavily opinionated political social justice woes with all the usual buzzwords all over Hacker News these days.
- vga42 8mo ago"Fascist" is not a buzzword. It's your political reality. Are you culpable of letting that reality be?
- account42 8mo agoIt may be the reality in your mind but it is not the reality in the actual real world. Don't expect to be taken seriously by anyone outside your political bubble until you learn to communicate your concerns using reasonable language.
- vga42 8mo agoI think you're absolutely on point and right that you shouldn't be listening to me, a potential internet nobody. There's no way you could tell me or anyone here apart from an AI at this point. You should be listening to actual reporters, such as Jonathan Rauch from The Atlantic: https://archive.is/Maalh https://archive.is/Maalh "Yes, it's Fascism"
- phatfish 8mo agoTruth hurts?
- closewith 8mo agoWhy are you using a US VC's forum, so?
- JasonADrury 8mo agoWhy shouldn't he? I don't see how someone posting comments like that would benefit YC.
- closewith 8mo agoThey're free to comment as they like, but as their comments are about disengaging from US-based tech and as there's no need to announce their departure, it just seems performative.
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- vga42 8mo agoGreat question. Force of habit that I really should get better from. USA used to be cool (or so I thought) back when I started participating in this place. They have sunk very low in the last 15 years. Let's make this actionable. This is the last time I read or write here. Bye. You guys won't lose much but I will gain a lot.
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- Fire-Dragon-DoL 8mo agoDamn i was really hoping to get one :(
- wolvoleo 8mo agoAnd me the frame. But yeah. It was to be expected. :(
- StopDisinfo910 8mo agoWhat's interesting to me is here is that we basically are in terra incognita with this RAM market. We are at a point where the market is so concentrated that nobody wants to invest in production capacity anymore as everyone wants margins to stay high. So when companies pivot to new niche like data centers, you see penuries on the consumer markets with nothing happening to solve the issue. The boom and bust cycle seems over at least as long as demands stay stable. Baring a crash of the IA economy, I don't see any short term change coming from the key manufacturers. Yet, what I find fascinating is that the whole oligopoly has pivoted so hard, they couldn't quickly pivot back to protect these markets if challenged. There is a unique opportunity for new comers if they can get the manufacturing capacities. Some Chinese manufacturers who used to make low grade chips could be tempted. They might be impaired by the new geopolitical situation however and the tarifs.
- wolvoleo 8mo agoI'm more worried about the Frame. I assume the same will apply there. I was really looking forward to it but I don't think I'll be able to afford it now
- wolvoleo 8mo agohttps://archive.is/8mB6A https://archive.is/8mB6A
- lxst 8mo agoI didn't see any paywall. Sorry for this. Here is valves original blog post "Steam Hardware: Launch timing and other FAQs": https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/625565405086220583?l=english https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/6255...
- wolvoleo 8mo agoDon't be sorry, on HN it's always practice to post the real link in the main post anyway :) The Verge probably show the first articles for free.
- mhitza 8mo agoI'm only interested in the steam controller, which is going to be delayed in bulk with the other hardware. Can anyone help me understand the following. > Can I play non steam games with the Steam Controller? The controller can work with any game compatible with the Steam Overlay. So the controller will only work with games (including non steam) launched from the steam overlay?
- pu_pe 8mo agoSeems like this price volatility might ultimately impact all kinds of consumer electronics. Even hardware that is already released like the Nintendo Switch 2 is probably getting its costs inflated by the RAM shortages.
- wolvoleo 8mo agoYes but less so because these parties have the clout to make large and long duration deals. Valve while a big company will not move 1/10th of the hardware nintendo does so they will feel it more.
- Pwntastic 8mo agothanks ai, thanks sam altman. feels like we can't have anything nice anymore