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> I ask myself every time I hear that Thiel is a "libertarian" _while also_ being the founder of the biggest surveillance dragnet ever created: what about surve
by like_any_other 9mo ago
> I ask myself every time I hear that Thiel is a "libertarian" _while also_ being the founder of the biggest surveillance dragnet ever created: what about surveillance is libertarian?
Surveillance does not directly violate the non-aggression principle, and a myopic adherence to minimal principles without any consideration to where they lead is the central feature of libertarianism.
- irishcoffee 9mo ago> a myopic adherence to minimal principles without any consideration to where they lead is the central feature of libertarianism. Your definition, maybe. Redefining that idea and assuming it is accepted as fact is a touch arrogant.
- like_any_other 9mo agoI'm not assuming or defining anything, just summarizing my observations of how self-proclaimed libertarians behave.
- irishcoffee 9mo agoSelf-proclaimed libertians aren't anything of the sort. You'll never meet actual libertians, they won't tell you, because they don't care. It's basically the opposite of the vegan, crossfit, prius charade.
- pixl97 9mo agoLibertarianism itself it a touch arrogant.
- cyberax 9mo agoSurveilance means stealing intellectual property of surveiled people. If you're a TRUE libertarian, then you need to make sure that you arrange some kind of a contract with the people you surveil.