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I don't know that the Schlesinger memo was real but I think it's conclusions were perfect. The CIA needs to be split into two divisions. The research division

I don't know that the Schlesinger memo was real but I think it's conclusions were perfect. The CIA needs to be split into two divisions. The research division and the operations division.

callmeal 9mo ago
They should all just go home. They already won. Remember this quote? "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)
- csours 9mo ago
  There Is No Disinformation Department.
  - cyberge99 9mo ago
    I see what you did there.
  - shevy-java 9mo ago
    Everyone should read 1984! It is such a time-less classic.
- shevy-java 9mo ago
  Well - the easier take-away is that the general public can not trust any of those top organisations. I think when a citizen can not trust the government anymore (in any country, at the least in a democracy), this is worrying. It's then more like the novel 1984 - while that referred primarily to the Soviet Union (Big Brother referred to Stalin for the most part), one could also find so many correlations to a "strong man"-led democracy too.
- throwawayq3423 9mo ago
  > This quote, often phrased as "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false," is widely attributed to William J. Casey, who served as the Director of Central Intelligence (CIA) under President Ronald Reagan from 1981 to 1987. > While frequently cited in literature and discussions about propaganda and media manipulation, the quote's authenticity is highly disputed and unverified. Are you trying to be ironic?
  - stopbulying 9mo ago
    The Power of Nightmares | Part 1: Baby It's Cold Outside | Adam Curtis F... https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc?t=32m54s https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc?t=32m54s : > I don't believe anything in Team B was really true > [...] > Casey was convinced that there was a single, organized network of evil in the world, [...] He found the proof he was looking for in a book called The Terror Network The Power of Nightmares | Part 2 : The Phantom Victory | Adam Curtis Ful... https://youtube.com/watch?v=KolgBqJ95ug?t=6m16s https://youtube.com/watch?v=KolgBqJ95ug?t=6m16s re: Casey, Reagan, Bush, Wolfowitz and why we've spent trillions saving the world from such dastardly evil since Carter's record-setting low EJK term (which was affected by oil price shock) The Power of Nightmares: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
  - laughing_man 9mo ago
    Somebody like Casey might think that, but I seriously doubt he'd ever actually say it, except as a joke.
    - throwawayq3423 9mo ago
      It's the people most convinced they have certainty over the mass web of conspiracies that secretly run the world that can never get basic things right, like attributable quotes.
HWR_14 9mo ago
Isn't it split into a research/analysis and an operations division already?

I don't know that the Schlesinger memo was real but I think it's conclusions were perfect. The CIA needs to be split into two divisions. The research division and the operations division.

callmeal 9mo ago

They should all just go home. They already won. Remember this quote? "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)

csours 9mo ago
There Is No Disinformation Department.
- cyberge99 9mo ago
  I see what you did there.
- shevy-java 9mo ago
  Everyone should read 1984! It is such a time-less classic.
shevy-java 9mo ago
Well - the easier take-away is that the general public can not trust any of those top organisations. I think when a citizen can not trust the government anymore (in any country, at the least in a democracy), this is worrying. It's then more like the novel 1984 - while that referred primarily to the Soviet Union (Big Brother referred to Stalin for the most part), one could also find so many correlations to a "strong man"-led democracy too.
throwawayq3423 9mo ago
> This quote, often phrased as "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false," is widely attributed to William J. Casey, who served as the Director of Central Intelligence (CIA) under President Ronald Reagan from 1981 to 1987. > While frequently cited in literature and discussions about propaganda and media manipulation, the quote's authenticity is highly disputed and unverified. Are you trying to be ironic?
- stopbulying 9mo ago
  The Power of Nightmares | Part 1: Baby It's Cold Outside | Adam Curtis F... https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc?t=32m54s https://youtube.com/watch?v=jxBbw13Y3Gc?t=32m54s : > I don't believe anything in Team B was really true > [...] > Casey was convinced that there was a single, organized network of evil in the world, [...] He found the proof he was looking for in a book called The Terror Network The Power of Nightmares | Part 2 : The Phantom Victory | Adam Curtis Ful... https://youtube.com/watch?v=KolgBqJ95ug?t=6m16s https://youtube.com/watch?v=KolgBqJ95ug?t=6m16s re: Casey, Reagan, Bush, Wolfowitz and why we've spent trillions saving the world from such dastardly evil since Carter's record-setting low EJK term (which was affected by oil price shock) The Power of Nightmares: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
- laughing_man 9mo ago
  Somebody like Casey might think that, but I seriously doubt he'd ever actually say it, except as a joke.
  - throwawayq3423 9mo ago
    It's the people most convinced they have certainty over the mass web of conspiracies that secretly run the world that can never get basic things right, like attributable quotes.

HWR_14 9mo ago

Isn't it split into a research/analysis and an operations division already?