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The financial times is doing well and has a better model IMO: expensive with a professional audience, not the general public.

steveBK123 9mo ago
Business news still has paying customers, its everyone else that is flailing
rtkwe 9mo ago
I don't think that's a useful model for a "paper of record" model like the NYT or formerly Washington Post. There's so much good to be had with a strong paper that isn't captured by it's ownership.
- einpoklum 9mo ago
  > for a "paper of record" model like the NYT NYT being a "paper of record" is something of a delusion of grandeur.
fooqux 9mo ago
> professional audience, not the general public. Yeah but that doesn't help when the entire purpose, when what we need, is an informed general populace.
- learingsci 9mo ago
  Access to information is not a solution to that. You can’t educate people who refuse to learn.
- kemitchell 9mo ago
  Sadly, I fully expect to see the cover price of The Economist reach twice the federal minimum wage. If the Fed goes back to cutting rates, it could be soon.
- boondongle 9mo ago
  Keep in mind, our parents (age specific) and/or their parents parents paid for news and didn't question that setup. Advertisors then went there because that's where the eyeballs were. What we're seeing is that left to their own devices and lacking a war or famine to force behavior change people would rather cut their news source in favor of fluff. It's not something the market will solve. The post 1940's US Media landscape was a direct reaction to multiple, non-contained wars in short succession. The political class doesn't feel they've "lost" control in a long time hence no urgency to fix it. In a lot of cases we're seeing Advertising warp and destroy the industries they provide money to. It's not evil, just that industries start to invert whether the people or the advertisors matter.
  - thinkharderdev 9mo ago
    > Keep in mind, our parents (age specific) and/or their parents parents paid for news and didn't question that setup I don't think this is quite right. Our parents paid for the newspaper but the newspaper was basically the internet of their time. That is where they got sports scores, movie/tv listings, etc. The fact that this was bundled with hard news was mostly a side-effect.
culi 9mo ago
Financial Times has shocked me many times over on the quality of its reporting compared to other outlets. Even media critic Noam Chomsky says FT is often an exception in western biases
- abcxyz1234 9mo ago
  You mean Epstein confidant, Cambodian genocide denier Noam Chomsky? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the paper.
  - culi 9mo ago
    Yes, Chomsky, the propaganda theorist, 8th most cited academic of all time, author of over 100 books, and person who misjudged the character of Epstein—as many did.
- 1over137 9mo ago
  The Noam Chomsky who told Epstein "I’m really fantasizing about the Caribbean island.", or a different one? /s
  - culi 9mo ago
    Chomsky the propaganda theorist, 8th most cited academic of all time, author of over 100 books, and person who misjudged the character of Epstein—as many did. You know you're taking that quote out of context. I don't defend Chomsky's misjudgements but I think it's important to state there's been zero evidence in the Epstein leaks of any sexual or illegal favors happening between the two This Guardian article from yesterday gives a complete overview of all the links found: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/03/epstein-files-noam-chomsky https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/03/epstein-file...
wanderingpixel 9mo ago
I agree regarding the audience, but for those on a more modest budget it is possible to get an affordable FT subscription to their digital version of the print newspaper.
- keiferski 9mo ago
  Yeah I actually get a subscription as a part of my eBank membership. Although a couple years ago I paid full price for an annual paper delivery; that was nice to have a physical newspaper, but it was too expensive in the end.

steveBK123 9mo ago

Business news still has paying customers, its everyone else that is flailing

rtkwe 9mo ago

I don't think that's a useful model for a "paper of record" model like the NYT or formerly Washington Post. There's so much good to be had with a strong paper that isn't captured by it's ownership.

einpoklum 9mo ago
> for a "paper of record" model like the NYT NYT being a "paper of record" is something of a delusion of grandeur.

fooqux 9mo ago

> professional audience, not the general public. Yeah but that doesn't help when the entire purpose, when what we need, is an informed general populace.

learingsci 9mo ago
Access to information is not a solution to that. You can’t educate people who refuse to learn.
kemitchell 9mo ago
Sadly, I fully expect to see the cover price of The Economist reach twice the federal minimum wage. If the Fed goes back to cutting rates, it could be soon.
boondongle 9mo ago
Keep in mind, our parents (age specific) and/or their parents parents paid for news and didn't question that setup. Advertisors then went there because that's where the eyeballs were. What we're seeing is that left to their own devices and lacking a war or famine to force behavior change people would rather cut their news source in favor of fluff. It's not something the market will solve. The post 1940's US Media landscape was a direct reaction to multiple, non-contained wars in short succession. The political class doesn't feel they've "lost" control in a long time hence no urgency to fix it. In a lot of cases we're seeing Advertising warp and destroy the industries they provide money to. It's not evil, just that industries start to invert whether the people or the advertisors matter.
- thinkharderdev 9mo ago
  > Keep in mind, our parents (age specific) and/or their parents parents paid for news and didn't question that setup I don't think this is quite right. Our parents paid for the newspaper but the newspaper was basically the internet of their time. That is where they got sports scores, movie/tv listings, etc. The fact that this was bundled with hard news was mostly a side-effect.

culi 9mo ago

Financial Times has shocked me many times over on the quality of its reporting compared to other outlets. Even media critic Noam Chomsky says FT is often an exception in western biases

abcxyz1234 9mo ago
You mean Epstein confidant, Cambodian genocide denier Noam Chomsky? Not exactly a ringing endorsement of the paper.
- culi 9mo ago
  Yes, Chomsky, the propaganda theorist, 8th most cited academic of all time, author of over 100 books, and person who misjudged the character of Epstein—as many did.
1over137 9mo ago
The Noam Chomsky who told Epstein "I’m really fantasizing about the Caribbean island.", or a different one? /s
- culi 9mo ago
  Chomsky the propaganda theorist, 8th most cited academic of all time, author of over 100 books, and person who misjudged the character of Epstein—as many did. You know you're taking that quote out of context. I don't defend Chomsky's misjudgements but I think it's important to state there's been zero evidence in the Epstein leaks of any sexual or illegal favors happening between the two This Guardian article from yesterday gives a complete overview of all the links found: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/03/epstein-files-noam-chomsky https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/03/epstein-file...

wanderingpixel 9mo ago

I agree regarding the audience, but for those on a more modest budget it is possible to get an affordable FT subscription to their digital version of the print newspaper.

keiferski 9mo ago
Yeah I actually get a subscription as a part of my eBank membership. Although a couple years ago I paid full price for an annual paper delivery; that was nice to have a physical newspaper, but it was too expensive in the end.