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Is there any state where it isn't illegal to carry at polling locations? I live in probably the most pro 2A state in the USA and it's illegal even here.

toomuchtodo 9mo ago
Only within X feet of a polling place typically. Check your local laws for compliance. Print them out, have them on your person. I am advocating for protecting yourself against unlawful federal force, including lethal force, while remaining within the letter of the law while exercising your right to vote. Definitely don't break the law as it relates to crossing a threshold (distance, whatever) with a firearm at a polling location, if that is the law in your jurisdiction. Certainly a better option than being dead and having ProPublica have to release the names of those who caused harm, imho. Alternatively, you should be talking to your governor already about local police and national guard being stationed to protect voters from federal agent intimidation, if needed. Pick your risk appetite. You are responsible for protecting you, no one else is or will. Know the law, operate within it to the best of your ability and from a position of good faith. Failing all of that, a jury will work it out. https://www.thetrace.org/2024/10/state-gun-bans-polling-places-violence/ https://www.thetrace.org/2024/10/state-gun-bans-polling-plac... Lawyer. Passport. Locksmith. Gun. (A Talk About Risk and Preparedness) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33509164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33509164 - November 2022
jeffbee 9mo ago
If you live in the most pro-2A state, which is Texas, then you need not worry about this because not only will Texas vote Republican in a wildly lopsided fashion as usual, and not only will the state of Texas gleefully cooperate with Trump election interference, it is also the one place where ICE goons won't stalk the streets carrying arms and wearing skull masks because by statute and by jurisprudence Texas has already firmly established that it's reasonable to shoot such a person dead, due to doubt about their identity as genuine peace officers. And, to be perfectly clear, it is reasonable to shoot that person on sight. But so far only Texas has codified it.
- toomuchtodo 9mo ago
  > A stand-your-ground law, sometimes called a "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law, provides that people may use deadly force when they reasonably believe it to be necessary to defend against certain violent crimes (right of self-defense). Under such a law, people have no duty to retreat before using deadly force in self-defense, so long as they are in a place where they are lawfully present. The exact details vary by jurisdiction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law#United_S... (status by US state)
  - mothballed 9mo ago
    Notably, Minneapolis, the epicenter of intimidation by ICE, is duty to retreat in public. So if you show up at the polls and someone threatens you, it appears you have to turn around and run away.

toomuchtodo 9mo ago

Only within X feet of a polling place typically. Check your local laws for compliance. Print them out, have them on your person. I am advocating for protecting yourself against unlawful federal force, including lethal force, while remaining within the letter of the law while exercising your right to vote. Definitely don't break the law as it relates to crossing a threshold (distance, whatever) with a firearm at a polling location, if that is the law in your jurisdiction. Certainly a better option than being dead and having ProPublica have to release the names of those who caused harm, imho. Alternatively, you should be talking to your governor already about local police and national guard being stationed to protect voters from federal agent intimidation, if needed. Pick your risk appetite. You are responsible for protecting you, no one else is or will. Know the law, operate within it to the best of your ability and from a position of good faith. Failing all of that, a jury will work it out. https://www.thetrace.org/2024/10/state-gun-bans-polling-places-violence/ https://www.thetrace.org/2024/10/state-gun-bans-polling-plac... Lawyer. Passport. Locksmith. Gun. (A Talk About Risk and Preparedness) [video] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33509164 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33509164 - November 2022

jeffbee 9mo ago

If you live in the most pro-2A state, which is Texas, then you need not worry about this because not only will Texas vote Republican in a wildly lopsided fashion as usual, and not only will the state of Texas gleefully cooperate with Trump election interference, it is also the one place where ICE goons won't stalk the streets carrying arms and wearing skull masks because by statute and by jurisprudence Texas has already firmly established that it's reasonable to shoot such a person dead, due to doubt about their identity as genuine peace officers. And, to be perfectly clear, it is reasonable to shoot that person on sight. But so far only Texas has codified it.

toomuchtodo 9mo ago
> A stand-your-ground law, sometimes called a "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law, provides that people may use deadly force when they reasonably believe it to be necessary to defend against certain violent crimes (right of self-defense). Under such a law, people have no duty to retreat before using deadly force in self-defense, so long as they are in a place where they are lawfully present. The exact details vary by jurisdiction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law#United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law#United_S... (status by US state)
- mothballed 9mo ago
  Notably, Minneapolis, the epicenter of intimidation by ICE, is duty to retreat in public. So if you show up at the polls and someone threatens you, it appears you have to turn around and run away.