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Let me counter this with all of my anecdata: I don't know a single pothead that improved compared to who they were (mentally especially, including cognitive fun

Let me counter this with all of my anecdata: I don't know a single pothead that improved compared to who they were (mentally especially, including cognitive function) compared to when I knew them before they started smoking pot. I'm sure they exist, I have not met them in person yet.

AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
You know at least one Hey buddy
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  Technically, not in person ;) I know lots of people that smoke heavily and I've watched their trajectory over decades. It's a sad story really. I'm pretty sure if you manage it responsibly the benefits may well outweigh the downsides but over the long term it really adds up. Of course, everybody ages, and people are not usually as sharp as they were in their twenties or earlier. But given that I also have access to a sizeable control group where I don't see that effect I figure it has to have some factual basis too large to be just handwaved away. Feel free to correct the fact that we haven't met in person by the way, you & yours are always welcome here.
  - AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
    I know - I’m planning my europe visit this summer most likely!
    - jacquesm 9mo ago
      Very nice, send me a heads up a few weeks in advance please.
Schmerika 9mo ago
I've seen many. There are no shortage of successful people who say so themselves. Read what any of your favorite musicians have to say about it. Check the science and testimony on it enhancing creativity and sensory experience, helping people see see themselves and the world from a new perspective - introspective development. You know, the same sort of introspection that might make one wonder if your statement above says a lot more about you, and your values, than it does about cannabis enjoyers.
- swed420 9mo ago
  Carl Sagan was one example: https://thereitis.org/mr-x-by-carl-sagan/ https://thereitis.org/mr-x-by-carl-sagan/ He originally wrote about it under a pseudonym for fear of professional consequences. Many such cases.
- lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
  Analogous to Dunning-Kruger. The drug user only perceives his experience as profound, but the perception is measured by a mind poorly positioned to judge the experience.
- jacquesm 9mo ago
  > There are no shortage of successful people who say so themselves. Yes, I know some of those. But usually they are either very light users or they achieved their success before becoming heavy users. I also know some pretty heavy users that are adamant that they are doing better than before but their environment does not usually agree. This is a thing that is fairly common with heavy drug users though.
HK-NC 9mo ago
Same. The only person I know who consumes it and isnt slow brained is a guy that eats it once a year in a brownie at some guys birthday party, and not every year.

AndrewKemendo 9mo ago

You know at least one Hey buddy

jacquesm 9mo ago
Technically, not in person ;) I know lots of people that smoke heavily and I've watched their trajectory over decades. It's a sad story really. I'm pretty sure if you manage it responsibly the benefits may well outweigh the downsides but over the long term it really adds up. Of course, everybody ages, and people are not usually as sharp as they were in their twenties or earlier. But given that I also have access to a sizeable control group where I don't see that effect I figure it has to have some factual basis too large to be just handwaved away. Feel free to correct the fact that we haven't met in person by the way, you & yours are always welcome here.
- AndrewKemendo 9mo ago
  I know - I’m planning my europe visit this summer most likely!
  - jacquesm 9mo ago
    Very nice, send me a heads up a few weeks in advance please.

Schmerika 9mo ago

I've seen many. There are no shortage of successful people who say so themselves. Read what any of your favorite musicians have to say about it. Check the science and testimony on it enhancing creativity and sensory experience, helping people see see themselves and the world from a new perspective - introspective development. You know, the same sort of introspection that might make one wonder if your statement above says a lot more about you, and your values, than it does about cannabis enjoyers.

swed420 9mo ago
Carl Sagan was one example: https://thereitis.org/mr-x-by-carl-sagan/ https://thereitis.org/mr-x-by-carl-sagan/ He originally wrote about it under a pseudonym for fear of professional consequences. Many such cases.
lo_zamoyski 9mo ago
Analogous to Dunning-Kruger. The drug user only perceives his experience as profound, but the perception is measured by a mind poorly positioned to judge the experience.
jacquesm 9mo ago
> There are no shortage of successful people who say so themselves. Yes, I know some of those. But usually they are either very light users or they achieved their success before becoming heavy users. I also know some pretty heavy users that are adamant that they are doing better than before but their environment does not usually agree. This is a thing that is fairly common with heavy drug users though.

HK-NC 9mo ago

Same. The only person I know who consumes it and isnt slow brained is a guy that eats it once a year in a brownie at some guys birthday party, and not every year.