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But where's the added value? You can book a meeting yourself. You can quickly add items to the freezer. Everything that was described in the article can be done

But where's the added value? You can book a meeting yourself. You can quickly add items to the freezer. Everything that was described in the article can be done in about the same amount of time as checking with Clawdbot. There are apps that track parcel delivery and support every courier service.

zozbot234 8mo ago
The point of keeping the bot in the loop is so that it can make suggestions later, based on the information it's been given as part of solving that task.
moribvndvs 8mo ago
A whole bunch of this stuff that people are fawning over as life changing and it leaves me honestly wondering: how have some of you survived this long at all?
- paodealho 8mo ago
  When I see these types of posts I wonder what those people do all day long that is so important, to the point they can't dedicate 30 minutes to plan and execute some chores.
  - moribvndvs 8mo ago
    I’m relieved my electricity bill went up 50% so Brandon here can get a Slack message of what’s in his freezer rather than looking.
    - RhythmFox 8mo ago
      A small price to pay for human hands to never be sullied digging through cold food to find things again. Progress.
  - chasd00 8mo ago
    to be fair, i distinctly remember reading a newspaper article asking what was wrong with taking the time to use the card catalog at the library. There were trying to understand the popularity of google.com
whatarethembits 8mo ago
Almost everything described in the post, amounts to a few hours in total in a given year to do "manually". I agree, there isn't compelling value (yet). What's puzzling to me is that there's little consideration of what one is trading away for this purported "value". Doing menial tasks is a respite for your brain to process things in the background. Its an opportunity to generate new thoughts. It reminds you of your own agency in life. It allows you to recognise small patterns and relate to other people. I don't want AI to summarise chats. It robs me the opportunity to know about something from someone's own words, therefore giving a small glimpse in their personality. This paints a picture over time, adding (or not) to the desire to interact with that person in the future. If I'm not going to see a chat anyway, then that creates the possibility of me finding something new in the future. A small moment of wonder for me and satisfaction for the person who brought me that new information. etc etc. Its like they're trying to outsource living. Maybe the story is that, outsourcing this will free them up to do more meaningful things. I've yet to see any evidence of this. What are these people even talking about on the coffee chats scheduled by the helpful assistant?
- echelon 8mo ago
  This all reminds me of Bill Gates on Letterman back in 1995: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBSLUbpJvwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBSLUbpJvwA "Do tape recorders ring a bell?" There are so many things I don't want to do. I don't want to read the internet and social media anymore - I'd rather just have a digest of high signal with a little bit of serendipity. Instead of bookmarking a fun physics concept to come back to later, I could have an agent find more and build a nice reading list for me. It's kind of how I think of self-driving cars. When I can buy a car with Waymo (or whatever), jump in overnight with the wife and the dogs, and wake up on the beach to breakfast, it will have arrived in a big way. I'll work remotely, traveling around the US. Visit the Grand Canyon, take a work call, then off to Sedona. No driving, traffic, just work or leisure the whole time. True AI agents will be like this and even better. Ads, for sure, are fucked. If my pane of glass comes with a baked in model for content scrubbing, all sorts of shit gets wiped immediately: ads, rage bait, engagement bait, low effort content.
  - 8mo ago

zozbot234 8mo ago

The point of keeping the bot in the loop is so that it can make suggestions later, based on the information it's been given as part of solving that task.

moribvndvs 8mo ago

A whole bunch of this stuff that people are fawning over as life changing and it leaves me honestly wondering: how have some of you survived this long at all?

paodealho 8mo ago
When I see these types of posts I wonder what those people do all day long that is so important, to the point they can't dedicate 30 minutes to plan and execute some chores.
- moribvndvs 8mo ago
  I’m relieved my electricity bill went up 50% so Brandon here can get a Slack message of what’s in his freezer rather than looking.
  - RhythmFox 8mo ago
    A small price to pay for human hands to never be sullied digging through cold food to find things again. Progress.
- chasd00 8mo ago
  to be fair, i distinctly remember reading a newspaper article asking what was wrong with taking the time to use the card catalog at the library. There were trying to understand the popularity of google.com

whatarethembits 8mo ago

Almost everything described in the post, amounts to a few hours in total in a given year to do "manually". I agree, there isn't compelling value (yet). What's puzzling to me is that there's little consideration of what one is trading away for this purported "value". Doing menial tasks is a respite for your brain to process things in the background. Its an opportunity to generate new thoughts. It reminds you of your own agency in life. It allows you to recognise small patterns and relate to other people. I don't want AI to summarise chats. It robs me the opportunity to know about something from someone's own words, therefore giving a small glimpse in their personality. This paints a picture over time, adding (or not) to the desire to interact with that person in the future. If I'm not going to see a chat anyway, then that creates the possibility of me finding something new in the future. A small moment of wonder for me and satisfaction for the person who brought me that new information. etc etc. Its like they're trying to outsource living. Maybe the story is that, outsourcing this will free them up to do more meaningful things. I've yet to see any evidence of this. What are these people even talking about on the coffee chats scheduled by the helpful assistant?

echelon 8mo ago
This all reminds me of Bill Gates on Letterman back in 1995: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBSLUbpJvwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBSLUbpJvwA "Do tape recorders ring a bell?" There are so many things I don't want to do. I don't want to read the internet and social media anymore - I'd rather just have a digest of high signal with a little bit of serendipity. Instead of bookmarking a fun physics concept to come back to later, I could have an agent find more and build a nice reading list for me. It's kind of how I think of self-driving cars. When I can buy a car with Waymo (or whatever), jump in overnight with the wife and the dogs, and wake up on the beach to breakfast, it will have arrived in a big way. I'll work remotely, traveling around the US. Visit the Grand Canyon, take a work call, then off to Sedona. No driving, traffic, just work or leisure the whole time. True AI agents will be like this and even better. Ads, for sure, are fucked. If my pane of glass comes with a baked in model for content scrubbing, all sorts of shit gets wiped immediately: ads, rage bait, engagement bait, low effort content.
- 8mo ago